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It's an insidious mindset that needs to die.
"You must come to the raid with ilevel 450 gear"... even though the raid drops 430 gear.
"You can't come to the fight unless you've watched all of the hour long Fatboss videos, and if you screwup you're kicked out". Even if it's on the week of release!
"Only classes and builds that are in the meta right now can come"
Ok, idiots will always min max, that's nothing new, that's all the way back to Vanilla.
The rest of us can enjoy the game with only 90 percentil, we don't need to always be the top, as long as we are having fun.
The people who love minmaxing, and squeezing the most out of their character won't care about what the covenant looks like, they gonna pick Kyrian for that 7% dmg increase no matter what.
And if you are picking Kyrian because some YT guide told you to, but you don't really like it, that's on you for making the game unfun for yourself.
I did read it. You’re the one that made the comparison. They person you were responding to stated that the covenant abilities are not going to be as impactful as all the soulbinds, which is correct. If you think any one ability is going to out shine an entire “talent” tree then you are sadly mistaken. So you should focus on how the soulbinds stack up next to each other instead of the abilities.
So yes, you have truly let your ignorance shine bright! Please understand all post and features before making responses like this.
There will always be an optimal choice and there will always be min-maxers who choose their race/class/talents/legendaries/covenants/etc. to maximize performance.
Allowing that to dictate what choices a player makes is also a choice.
There is never going to be perfect balance unless you want to completely homogenize the game and make the only choices purely cosmetic.
That’s generally from the wannabe raiders. They don’t truly understand the min-max, the just regurgitate what they’ve seen in guides. Typically your pug leaders above normal difficulty, but not good enough for mythic. They will go 3/8M by the end of the tier and still call themselves Mythic raiders. They are the elite dumbasses
So you know all soulbind passives that are coming?
As a matter of fact, we currently 3(!) soulbind abilities:
1.Increase Parry chance
2.Situational Crit Chance
3.A heal proc below a given Health threshold.
Based on these three abilities, you simply assume that the remaining (we've not seen) suddenly are that amazing that they will surpass those active abilities?
That's a big guess on your part.
Is there at least a source that says "Yeah, Soulbinds are going to be the shit" that supports this theory?
Who's the ignorant here? The one who just assumes shit without any source or the one who takes things at face value?
Replace every dps with windwalker and I can guarantee she’s not going down because the dps isn’t there. So if in some bizarre instance everyone actually wanted to play the worst dps spec, yes it would be impossible to clear.
It is through the efforts of others that that spec is able to accomplish any meaningful feat
Are you forgetting how talent trees work? Has it been so long? The best talents are at the BOTTOM of the tree.
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Replace every dps spec with the same spec and it would be either impossible or much more difficult.... even if they were all the top spec.
That's not the point in all of this, you do not need to min-max to clear mythic, period. Some people find it fun and will, but not picking the right covenant will not preclude you from clearing.
Well, considering you listed a talent that is "higher crit on targets with less percent health then you" as situational... idk what you want, that's pretty far from situational, more often than not your enemy (in pve at least) as less % hp then you and it will be up almost 100% during the times it matters most, execute phases.
True. Absolute min-maxing continuous class stacking and metas are not required as long as certain thresholds are met by the group. My point was you’re going to have hell of a time finding someone to carry your ass through that without paying, and accept the prejudice of the community when trying to get into groups.
Its a valid opinion that the talent trees may end up being less impactful...but IMO they will be more.
From the image i showed you, there are 11 choices.
The first one being a permanent 5% crit increase in PvE (HUGE)
I cant imagine how the entire tree will be less impactful than the 1min CD abilities.
But its possible. You may be right...bit i doubt.