Sylvanas vs Lich King, lol how

[shise]

First of, what do you mean by "entire" ICC. ICC is full of mindless ghouls controlled by the LK, they are basically trash. We cleared ICC many years ago.

Second. The Lich King is not powerful in 1 on 1 combat, Arthas Lich King was because it was a mix of several strong powers. Bolvar LK is merely keeping the scourge under check.

Sylvanas has acquired a power which we are about to learn about in the oncoming Xpack, why do you question something you simply didn´t learn about yet, people?

[Melius]

she could have punched sargeras in the face and end him but at the last moment the pantheon saved him from a humiliating KO. bruh she's ridiculously op.

[Shadowland]

Keep in mind, Bolvar didn't have Frostmourne and how Sylvanas is obtaining her new power makes sense. To simply put, the school of Mysticism, mixed with Alteration and Conjuration, sprinkled with some Animus... yeah, that would make her a powerful necromancer, on top of the capabilities she already has as a hunter. Take away the Maw, she is still good, but her power level is highly deflated.

[Armourboy]

Why? Bolvar isn't supposed to be stronger than Arthas, dude doesn't want to become the Lich King, he also never ever shown to win against any formidable opponent when Arthas has won against Mal'Ganis, Kael, Illidan, Antonidas, Uther and the Silverhand Paladins one after another.

Bolvar being stronger as Arthas just because he wore the same helmet would be the actual bad writing.

Bolvar is not the Lich King, he doesn't want to become the Lich King, he's just there because someone has to wear the helmet, he's never shown to have the same combat prowess as the Lich King, he just happened to wear his helmet.

If C-3PO wore Darth Vader's helmet, Vader's entire legacy doesnt suddenly transferred to C-3PO, its just bull!@#$

Except Vader's helmet had no inherent power so it's apples and oranges anyways. My point was simply this, if they wanted to make her look like a badass they failed miserably, all they accomplished was making Bolvar look weak.

[Asrialol]

there is an expansion called Battle for Azeroth.

in it, the writing is shit.

in patch 8.2.5 we saw Sylvanas using some power which was never foreshadowed before but we should accept it because it looks cool.

apparently it's enough to solo the entire Icecrown Citadel+LK.

Bwahahahah, didn't take long before the kids came in with the "bAd WrITiNg" cries. General major yikes reporting for duty.

But yeah Ion explained it. I suppose the professional writers here on the forum disagrees though.

[TwoMana]

So what power is she juiced up on that she managed to take on the entire icecrown single handedly, and then defeat Lich King so easely. Its the Lich King ffs, Super powerful being thats also Bolvar, infused by dragonfire and light n sheet

They are videogame characters, not real.
Narrative and lore has always changed to accommodate for gameplay.

That’s how.

[shuubu]

Do you know what a jailor actually does? He keeps the inmates in check, that is exactly what Bolvar did with the undead. Even Ion already said that the pre-event will contain the scourge maurauding across azeroth again because they are no longer bound by Bolvar.

Yesh and that's yet another bs thing about this. We deal with scourge in a prepatch event. Talk about shitting all over your own franchise.

[Ophenia]

At this point the next expansion will be Sylvie raiding Illidan and one shoting Sargeras."She has been taking power from the Shadowlands" crap is dumb as fuck, proves WoW writting is very bad, like real bad. I know Blizzard is trying to make Sylvanas the new big Bad guy but this shit is laughtable.

Yeah that's so theoretical...

But compare with 8.0. Bwondamdi granting Rastakhan "his pawa", it made Rastakhan... jump higher and throw one powerful punch (not enough to knock Zul down though).

When a theoretical being empowered by death in another realm gives Sylvanas some power (how ?), it makes her one-shot everything, everyone.

[mrinvisable2]

So what power is she juiced up on that she managed to take on the entire icecrown single handedly, and then defeat Lich King so easely. Its the Lich King ffs, Super powerful being thats also Bolvar, infused by dragonfire and light n sheet

Icecrown citadel is Lvl 80 content and she is from lvl 120 content so its obvious , i can do that too

[Palapop]

Omfg yes exactly. How do people not get this?!

The fight made perfect sense. How was Bolvar ever expected to win? The LK has never been strongest 1v1, let alone a beaten and battered, scorched zombie Bolvar.

I'm glad someone agrees with me

Thank you mate.

[FelPlague]

The problem is - even if Sylvanas is powerful enough to defeat Bolvar, which is probably a sure thing atm, the fight was lame. Sylvanas did not take a SINGLE hit. Also, she rounded his army on her own. IMO it is not the outcome that makes people angry. It is how it was executed.

Bolvar is a 1 hit u ded kinda guy, that huge ass hammer, if it hit her anywhere, it would be fatal bassicly.
sorta like the 1 hit ko abilities in pokemon, super low chance to hit, but if it does, instantly KO.

[VinceVega]

Why are people so pissed of about sudden powerups. Was no problem for Illidan who suddenly can play jailor for a freaking titan.

Or Garosh who got his power from an old god. Or Deathwing... again Old Gods. Or Cho'gall... also Old gods. Tyrande.. Elune. Malfurion suddenly can do whatever he can imagine. Gallywix and Mekkatorque.. giveem MECS! Fandral Staghelm... firelord. Illidan again... taking the power of his fellow mages. EVERYTHING about the naga... old gods. The whole story of Zul Gurub and Aman.

Wow is basically completely built upon characters that got a sudden spike in power.

[Muajin76]

Bolvar is a 1 hit u ded kinda guy, that huge ass hammer, if it hit her anywhere, it would be fatal bassicly.
sorta like the 1 hit ko abilities in pokemon, super low chance to hit, but if it does, instantly KO.

We should be so lucky that bosses in this game don't have instant kill hits, like they did in EQ.
Imagine a tank with bis gear from mythic raid getting 1 shotted to a death touch. The tank would QQ and rage. EQ had bosses like this.

[Zmagoslav]

The same juice she used to kill Saurfang, just that this time around she had to use way more of it.
It has been commented on within the game and explained by Ion... nothing much to discuss here.

[FelPlague]

The same juice she used to kill Saurfang, just that this time around she had to use way more of it.
It has been commented on within the game and explained by Ion... nothing much to discuss here.

that and with saurfang she was playing with him, toyying with him and making him look pathetic infront of everyone, possibly hoping they would give up, seeing how weak their leader is in comparison.

but then he splits the weapon, something we thought like only varian could do and gets a hit, then she just instant kills him cause shes done toyying.

[Phantombeard]

Why break the fabric of reality when you can solo Azeroth? In BFA we learned that she can fly and teleport and now she can solo an entire army + a random LK. What is next?

I read this and thought damn. All she really does need is a Saturday morning cartoon and a BIG S on her chest.

[lummiuster]

Getting this emotionally invested in warcraft characters lul.

lmao for real. But I understand people like different things and if you're not into that RP thing we should not disturb their fun.

[Goldfingaz]

Sylvanas beats LK because she's been out questing, he's been doing next to nothing. She out leveled him.

[Kharadin]

So what power is she juiced up on that she managed to take on the entire icecrown single handedly, and then defeat Lich King so easely. Its the Lich King ffs, Super powerful being thats also Bolvar, infused by dragonfire and light n sheet

Probably that Jailer bloke's power.

[Tyrannica]

Should have been reborn, empowered by the maw, Kel'thuzad vs LK(Bolvar) the impostor.

Story and all what have been said in that cinematic would suddenly make sense.

Sylvanas overused by now, and her deus ex machina moves do not make much sense and are not developed well.

At least Kel knows a thing or two as the most important advisor of the LK and strongest Lich empowered by the sunwell.

He probably has a good reasion to go to the shadowlands, too, unlike sylvanas, her story arc basicly ended with the fall of arthas.

Her purpose ended with the bestrayal of her own people.

Looks nothing more like the glorified female version of Kael'thas, just with more silly deus ex machina involved.

Yeah, Bolvar LK may be weak(don't really buy it though, he could have other unknown powers), but Saurfang wasn't weak, in a duel and could slightly wound here like broxigar did with sargeras' toe - problem just is, Sylvanas is no Sargeras and the image her beeing so much more powerful out of the sudden just comes of as silly thing.

I wished the current lore designers would go to a more realistic approach in terms of power gains and more close battles, like it happend in WC3, when i remember the duel illidan vs arthas, both empowered by legendary artifacts, Skull of Gul'dan and Frostmourne. Stuff like that, works for me.

Not totally against some uber evil enemy with edgy evil wizard powers, but please do not use always the same established lore character.