Why should I vote for more school taxes when I dont go to school anymore?

[Einsz]

Higher % of society with education = more people with diploma in the job market = your degree becomes trash = lower salary or no job at all for you because its even easier to replace you with people willing to work for less

Also I believe every child in US already has access to free public school so throwing more money wouldn't help at all. Time to get real.

[PosPosPos]

I honestly see it as an issue of neglect combined with a desire to see everyone succeed even those who can not. I don't see it as Republican or democrat issue. Both have made the situation worse but I doubt it was malicious.

You didn't think I would actually buy that fencesitting "both sides" crap from you? That shit only comes from one side of the political spectrum, and it's definitely not liberals.

[unbound]

"Fuck you, got mine"?

Sounds about right.

That generally sums up the OP and people like him.

Apparently the concept of civilization is too difficult for people to comprehend.

We didn't get to the point of dominate this planet because of every man for himself. We took over the planet because we work as a pack.

[Theodarzna]

You don't need a citation. Good schools produce smarter citizens. Good schools raise property values. Thought there were known things.

Idk, this is close to "Magic Dirt" thinking. Can Schools actually make a good student? In my experience you are radically overestimating what teachers and schools can necessarily do.

[d00mGuArD]

You don't need a citation. Good schools produce smarter citizens. Good schools raise property values. Thought there were known things.

Idk, this is close to "Magic Dirt" thinking. Can Schools actually make a good student? In my experience you are radically overestimating what teachers and schools can necessarily do.

Schools are indeed one of the most important factors in making good students.
The power of schools is more and more limited lately but it still very important. Friends are also a deciding factor.
Top one is of course the parents. It is the ultimate responsibility and deciding factor, just not the only one.

[Endus]

Idk, this is close to "Magic Dirt" thinking. Can Schools actually make a good student? In my experience you are radically overestimating what teachers and schools can necessarily do.

Compare the baseline educational level to basically any nation without a public education system.

That's your baseline for "what teachers and schools can do".

[bladeXcrasher]

Every man woman and child should be against common core.. it's been proven to be disadvantageous at this point. You agree because you see everything as a political matter and anything that does not fall into that black and white divide moves past your ability to interupt properly.

It's only disadvantageous because it requires all schools to be brought to equal levels. Much like Texas was required to do for city districts like HISD, because corporations are held to different property tax requirements than the common person, so instead of the city bringing in tons more money than the suburbs, you had horribly underfunded schools in the city. It wasn't until Texas started distributing tax revenue outside if the districts that things sorta improved.

You're damn right it's a political matter, Republicans are pushing against real reforms and Democrats are pushing to reform education.

[Low Hanging Fruit]

You should want society to improve and schools do that. But, I do think people that shit out two dozen kids should pay a hire burdon when it comes to school taxes. Sure, we all benefit from educated kids. But it sucks that I have to carry these people that have more kids than they can afford to feed.

[Whiskyjack]

It's only disadvantageous because it requires all schools to be brought to equal levels. Much like Texas was required to do for city districts like HISD, because corporations are held to different property tax requirements than the common person, so instead of the city bringing in tons more money than the suburbs, you had horribly underfunded schools in the city. It wasn't until Texas started distributing tax revenue outside if the districts that things sorta improved.

You're damn right it's a political matter, Republicans are pushing against real reforms and Democrats are pushing to reform education.

They are reforming via things like common core.. that isn't making the situation better. I'm not convinced it is a funding problem but rather a lacking curriculum

[Draeth]

That's how these always go.

"Why do I have to pay for society?"
"Why don't you leave society and go make your own way alone in the woods?"
"I don't wanna give up all the benefits of society!"
"Ahh, so you just don't wanna pay for the benefits you admit you enjoy and desire."
"Exactly! How is this hard to understand?!"

How did you condense every conversation I've ever had with a libertarian into 5 sentences?

[Chinese Bootlickers]

Boomer trolley problem: the thread.

[melodramocracy]

From a purely selfish standpoint, since that seems to be all you care about... Its better for you to not have the area you live in filled with uneducated failures at life... Shitty underfunded schools correlate to shitty life prospects for the students in such districts, shitty life prospects correlate to crime.

If saving like $200 a year on your property taxes is worth having the area you live in devolve into a crime infested shithole, then by all means, vote against funding the schools.

There's shitty underfunded schools, and then there's highschools that have sports facilities that would make some colleges jealous. That's the kind of thing that pisses folks off.

[Blown03SVT]

Good schools lower crime, benefit society, increase property values, etc...There’s no con to having better schools.

If you’re so concerned about paying more for schools and it hurting your savings plan for your quad sli 2080ti build maybe you should improve yourself and make yourself more valuable and make more income?


My guess is OP thought he post and get some supporting opinions, lol

[I Push Buttons]

There's shitty underfunded schools, and then there's highschools that have sports facilities that would make some colleges jealous. That's the kind of thing that pisses folks off.

Just because a school has nice sporting facilities doesn't mean they paid for it.

When I was in high school, a brand new football stadium was built (no idea on the cost, it wasn't state of the art or overtly huge or anything; just brand new) while simultaneously hundreds of students had their classes outside the building in trailers because there wasn't enough room for them inside and they had no money to expand.

One might be outraged that they were seemingly buying a new stadium in such a circumstance, until you actually looked into it and saw that the school didn't pay shit for the stadium; donations from local businesses and the school's alumni association independently funded the stadium because 'muh football'... While at the same time, election after election, levies on the ballot to build new school buildings and such failed to pass.

[minteK917]

Every single year my corrupt ass city wants more money in taxes. We just voted for increased taxes last year but this year they want even more! Now they want to renovate the high schools. We are already building 3 new schools within the next 10 years. I voted "no" but everyone ripped me to shreads. Why should I care? I dont have kids and im not in K-12 school.

I doubt your paid taxes when you went to school.

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People where paying into the school system before we had our 3 kids. I do not mind helping out now they are grown adults. Even if you do not have kids, at one time, for several years, you attended the schools funded largely by others.

I also do not mind paying for levies for our local small Fire Department and the Senior Citizens program in our area. I voted for both of those yesterday in the election we had.

When even ghostpanther call you out on the bullshit, you know its bad lol. I guess Id be able to sit and take a drink with you actually, you aint half bad when you arent shit posting about Trump.

[Attackrabbit]

I voted "no" but everyone ripped me to shreads.

You should go back to school (and then you will have no complaints).

[Xarkan]

Idk, this is close to "Magic Dirt" thinking. Can Schools actually make a good student? In my experience you are radically overestimating what teachers and schools can necessarily do.

I think a bad teacher can turn a potentially above average student into a far below average student... The right amount of lack of motivation can do a lot

[Nihilist74]

Every single year my corrupt ass city wants more money in taxes. We just voted for increased taxes last year but this year they want even more! Now they want to renovate the high schools. We are already building 3 new schools within the next 10 years. I voted "no" but everyone ripped me to shreads. Why should I care? I dont have kids and im not in K-12 school.

You should care that the rest of your citizens are educated to the best extent possible. The more educated a populace is, the better they are to live with.
Here in Colorado, we have legalized recreational pot. The tax money from it is supposed to go towards education. I don't think they are spending the money wisely. I am all for spending tax money on education if we know how it is spent. I can understand being skeptical.

[Vash The Stampede]

Congratulations, you're thinking like a rich anti-socialist. The reason you want to pay taxes is because at some point those children grow up to be people that you interact with, and think about how stupid the average person is and realize that 50% of people are dumber than that. What you want to do is get the Federal government to pay for more than 10% of funding, so the local property taxes don't go sky high and so that maybe students don't have books that still say that Pluto is a planet. Before you say where we're going to get the money from, just realize that 60 corporations paid $0 in taxes in 2018 and also got paid by the government in billions.

[Zan15]

Congratulations, you're thinking like a rich anti-socialist. The reason you want to pay taxes is because at some point those children grow up to be people that you interact with, and think about how stupid the average person is and realize that 50% of people are dumber than that. What you want to do is get the Federal government to pay for more than 10% of funding, so the local property taxes don't go sky high and so that maybe students don't have books that still say that Pluto is a planet. Before you say where we're going to get the money from, just realize that 60 corporations paid $0 in taxes in 2018 and also got paid by the government in billions.

Silly man don't you know all that tax not saved will trickle down!!!! /S