I'm going to go with the theory that the nathrezim (who, as noted earlier, have an affinity with necromancy) pulled it out of the shadowlands and said job done.
Though reading through the first page of this thread is pretty gross, alot of insults .
I'm going to go with the theory that the nathrezim (who, as noted earlier, have an affinity with necromancy) pulled it out of the shadowlands and said job done.
Though reading through the first page of this thread is pretty gross, alot of insults .
Alright, and if that's the case indeed, and Revendreth are the uncorrupted versions of dreadlords, it still doesn't retcon the fact that Dreadlords created the helm and sword with KJ. It's like people cannot add 1+1 together. And if Revendreth are not the dreadlords, dezidens of the shadowlands could still have helped the dreadlords and KJ to create these artifacts.
Or it could just be a bunch of lies, cause that's KJ's speciality, and he just stole these from the shadowlands instead of making them himself.
To me it sounds like people being mad that when we got more information it didn't align with what people themselves used to fill in the blanks...
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After bc retcons and wotlk retcon will be the turn of cata retcon! 2 expansions from now we'll learn that the old gods didn't corrupt neltharion at all, he just had a thorn stuck under his paw and that's what made him really grumpy and aggressive , cue wrathion seeking vengeance for killing his old innocent dad.
The Devs have already called the lore a 'limitation' they don't want to be 'bound' by. Idk why this surprises anyone. Whoever is in charge of the story is shit at their job and instead of going with what they have and being creative they just throw away what they can't figure out/don't like and move on. If you're still here for the story kudos to you. I checked out after 'alternate timelines/universes' were introduced and made a plot instead of being an abstract thought like they should have remained.
Side note, watching people who have no idea talk about lore on this thread is super cringe worthy. Nathrezim = Revendreth? No... like... in no way is that remotely close. The fkn Nathrezim aren't from the shadowlands. God this hurts my eyes!
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"Honor, young heroes. No matter how dire the battle, never forsake it."Varok Saurfang
Because Thrall didn't turn into a genocidal maniac. And also, if you think they can't do it with Sylvanas, then please look at Garrosh, my friend. She high key called him an "amateur".
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Implying the Jailer won't catch up to that.
Hell, N'zoth caught up with it. And he's a mere Old God.
Disagree. The retcon aside for Sylvanas’ thoughts on being Warchief is that they’re trying to make the Lich King out to be something more significant than he actually ever was. As you’ve mentioned, he was a Legion bitch. The Dreadlords all had his abilities and were supposed to police him. It’s why he needed Arthas.
It doesn’t make sense that the Nathrezim would go this far out of their way to create a being that is basically a bargain bin Dreadlord.
I now wonder... when Varimathras talks about how Sylvanas will betray us (Legion fight), he mentioned that we will only notice it after the "...shattered mask hangs above our hearth..." - does it have to do with Sylvanas ripping apart the Lichking's Crown? He also mentions that our holy places will burn (Teldrassil)
I assumed he meant her "pretend to be nice"-mask (or whatever comes close to it, edit: or the banner of undercity, now that I think about it..), but now I'm not so sure anymore.. considering the fact that the Nathrezim know about the true origin of the Helm of Domination
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to be honest, i never felt like the Demon and Fel stuff fit the Scourge and vice versa, i mean the Legion uses Sigils and the Necromancer uses Runes.
I know Guhldan Made the first deathknight and so, but they where something else than the Dk´s we have right know and from the Scourge.
The legion made the LK, but we know now nerhzul didnt use Fel instead he uses the Magic from the Necrolords (shadowlands).
So i am kinda happy, that blizz is seperating the Two (Necro and Fel) so each of them can be a major Force instead beeing the little brother of the big Demon Force.
If you think about it, the lore is so old ( set in WC3) i dont think they intendet to get this far with the franchise... so it makes sense for me, to reorganize the Lore a little here and there XD
Why no, people don't just like Sylvie for T&A: https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...ery-Cinematic/
I'm not denying that Sylvanas has betrayed a lot of people, but it's rarely been her goal. It has generally been as a means of accomplishing some additional goal: working with Garithos to drive out the Scourge, working with Varian to become Warchief, working with Azshara to kill off more Alliance. The post I was quoting said that her goal was to dethrone the jailer, and generally you don't partner with the person you're going to dethrone and help them become stronger if the goal is to ultimately topple them.
Blizzard "villains" aren't known for their great logic, so it's feasible this is her plan. But in that case, where did the poster hear it? This is why I asked about the evidence they had. A lot of news has come out, with a lot of interviews, and I haven't read all of them. If someone has seen a reputable source that states Sylvanas is attempting to dethrone the jailer, I'd like to read or view it.