ICE detained a veteran they knew was a US citizen

[Zaydin]

Despite being presented almost immediately with proof that Marine veteran Jilar Ramos-Gomez was a US citizen, having had a passport on his person when he was first arrested, ICE detained him anyways and was prepared to deport him. As a result of his unlawful detainment, the city of Grand Rapids, Michigan settled with his family a lawsuit for $190,000 without having to admit wrongdoing.

Can we please just disband the ICEstapo? We survived fine without them for decades.

[s_bushido]

Can we please just disband the ICEstapo? We survived fine without them for decades.

Nothing is probably going to happen on this front until they attempt to deport a Republican politician with a Hispanic last name.

[Captain N]

Another day. Another incident with ICE attempting to deport American citizens. Shame the family settled instead of raising holy hell but good that they didn't deport another American citizen.

[Milchshake]

Another day. Another incident with ICE attempting to deport American citizens. Shame the family settled instead of raising holy hell but good that they didn't deport another American citizen.

It's like Trump's whole immigration policy is about ethnic cleansing. The harassment and punitive actions against immigrant communities far from the borders proves this.

This truth really upsets anti-immigration types.

[Pipebomb]

It's like Trump's whole immigration policy is about ethnic cleansing. The harassment and punitive actions against immigrant communities far from the borders proves this.

This truth really upsets anti-immigration types.

Trump still has not reached anywhere near the level of interior removals as the early Obama administration, according to Cato's analysis of data through 2018

https://www.cato.org/blog/trump-admi...on-enforcement

[s_bushido]

Trump still has not reached anywhere near the level of interior removals as the early Obama administration

Yes, now tell us again how Democrats are in favor of OPEN BORDERS...

[Daelak]

Trump still has not reached anywhere near the level of interior removals as the early Obama administration, according to Cato's analysis of data through 2018

https://www.cato.org/blog/trump-admi...on-enforcement

Because they are spending all their resources abusing women and children migrants at the border instead of finding violent and drug related migrants inside the US.

[Azadina]

Nothing is probably going to happen on this front until they attempt to deport a Republican politician with a Hispanic last name.

*laughs*

Nah...They'd jump all over that and use it as a reason to claim ICE needs vastly more funding.

[Cizr]

Despite being presented almost immediately with proof that Marine veteran Jilar Ramos-Gomez was a US citizen, having had a passport on his person when he was first arrested, ICE detained him anyways and was prepared to deport him. As a result of his unlawful detainment, the city of Grand Rapids, Michigan settled with his family a lawsuit for $190,000 without having to admit wrongdoing.

Can we please just disband the ICEstapo? We survived fine without them for decades.

Yeah lets disband organization that fights human trafficking, pedophiles and other criminals because few of them made mistake

[Temp name]

Yeah lets disband organization that fights human trafficking, pedophiles and other criminals because few of them made mistake

That sounds like something that'd fall under FBI or interpol honestly

[Machismo]

I love how people try and act like that actually give a shit about human trafficking. The entire reason there is a demand for human traffickers, is that those very same people are creating the demand for those traffickers. That's like the Soviets and East German military saying that the Berlin Wall was to protect against human traffickers.

Nobody is buying your bullshit.

[Cizr]

That sounds like something that'd fall under FBI or interpol honestly

Most people hating ICE dont actually know what ICE does. They believe that they only deport immigrants but thats only part of their job. They have Investigation and Removal branch.

Homeland Security Investigations (HSI)
HSI is the DHS's investigative arm, with offices in numerous U.S. cities and worldwide. It handles transnational criminal investigations, with a focus on protecting U.S. national security. HSI helps apprehend and punish people and criminal organizations seeking to exploit U.S. customs and immigration laws and procedures.

HSI has broad powers when it comes to these investigations, and addresses a range of crimes, such as financial crimes, cybercrimes, child exploitation and sex tourism, illegal weapons trade, export violations, commercial fraud, intellectual property theft, human smuggling and trafficking, narcotics smuggling and trafficking, identity and benefit fraud, human rights violations, transnational gang activity, counterterrorism, and visa security.

Source :
https://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo...es-ice-do.html

And as for Enforcement and Removal branch....

In FY2018, ERO removed 256,086 illegal aliens, reflecting an increase of 13% over FY2017. The majority of removals (57%) were convicted criminals. Additionally, 5,914 of the removed illegal aliens were classified as either known or suspected gang members or terrorists, which is a 9% increase over FY2017.

Nearly 6000 gang members/terrorist removed in 2018

Source :
https://www.ice.gov/features/ERO-2018


But yeah sure lets disband ICE

[Somewhatconcerned]

A measly 190k?

[Draco-Onis]

Most people hating ICE dont actually know what ICE does. They believe that they only deport immigrants but thats only part of their job. They have Investigation and Removal branch.

Homeland Security Investigations (HSI)
HSI is the DHS's investigative arm, with offices in numerous U.S. cities and worldwide. It handles transnational criminal investigations, with a focus on protecting U.S. national security. HSI helps apprehend and punish people and criminal organizations seeking to exploit U.S. customs and immigration laws and procedures.

HSI has broad powers when it comes to these investigations, and addresses a range of crimes, such as financial crimes, cybercrimes, child exploitation and sex tourism, illegal weapons trade, export violations, commercial fraud, intellectual property theft, human smuggling and trafficking, narcotics smuggling and trafficking, identity and benefit fraud, human rights violations, transnational gang activity, counterterrorism, and visa security.

Source :
https://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo...es-ice-do.html

And as for Enforcement and Removal branch....

In FY2018, ERO removed 256,086 illegal aliens, reflecting an increase of 13% over FY2017. The majority of removals (57%) were convicted criminals. Additionally, 5,914 of the removed illegal aliens were classified as either known or suspected gang members or terrorists, which is a 9% increase over FY2017.

Nearly 6000 gang members/terrorist removed in 2018

Source :
https://www.ice.gov/features/ERO-2018


But yeah sure lets disband ICE

ICE didn't exist until 2003 as part of the overreaction for 9/11 unless your point is we didn't remove terrorists or do deportations before 2003?

The previous system was better more efficient and less costly not to mention put a target on people who do deportation, there's no logical reason to have ICE.

[Cizr]

ICE didn't exist until 2003 as part of the overreaction for 9/11 unless your point is we didn't remove terrorists or do deportations before 2003?

The previous system was better more efficient and less costly not to mention put a target on people who do deportation, there's no logical reason to have ICE.

Point is that ICE does a lot of good things so if you want to disband it you should reconsider because it will only help criminals.

Can you back up your claims that previous system was better and more efficient?

[Draco-Onis]

Point is that ICE does a lot of good things so if you want to disband it you should reconsider because it will only help criminals.

Can you back up your claims that previous system was better and more efficient?

Under Obama ICE was pretty much doing the same thing it was doing before we had it working with communities most of the time not even being flashy about it and deportations were much higher than under Trump. ICE doing the same things we were doing before they existed doesn't mean anything.

[Bodakane]

List of Trump's direct offenses to the military:

- Insult all POWs for being POWs
- Insulted a gold star family
- Questions the intentions and service of a lifetime service member and purple heart winner
- Forced soldiers to abandon their on the ground allies
- Wouldn't walk in the rain to honor fallen WWII veterans
- Tried to deport a veteran because he was hispanic

At this point, any US military service member that defends ro supports Trump is doing so because they joined the Trump cult.

[Ghostpanther]

Despite being presented almost immediately with proof that Marine veteran Jilar Ramos-Gomez was a US citizen, having had a passport on his person when he was first arrested, ICE detained him anyways and was prepared to deport him. As a result of his unlawful detainment, the city of Grand Rapids, Michigan settled with his family a lawsuit for $190,000 without having to admit wrongdoing.

Can we please just disband the ICEstapo? We survived fine without them for decades.

Your link is behind a paywall. But it sounds like they screwed up. However, we do not disband authority agencies because they screw up. I would need to know more information to make more of a judgement in this case.

[Bodakane]

Your link is behind a paywall. But it sounds like they screwed up. However, we do not disband authority agencies because they screw up. I would need to know more information to make more of a judgement in this case.

This isn't a screw up.

A screw up is misplaced paperwork or something unintentional.

They saw his passport and his ID and didn't;t care because he was hispanic. That is willful.

[Sunseeker]

Nothing is probably going to happen on this front until they attempt to deport a Republican politician with a Hispanic last name.

And we wonder why Ted Cruz spends so much time in Washington.