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  1. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by Fencers View Post
    Big city. I can not stand 'small towns' or countrysides. Fucking no.

    I was born and raised in New York, lived in San Francisco, Boston and London and now live in Chicago currently. The hustle and bustle of a big city are invigorating to me.

    Though I lived in a small town once and got super depressed (and bored). I would have rather been homeless in a city than live there a day longer. Just the worst.

    I can't even vacation in a 'small town' or village. So boring. I like people, interreaction, the noise of life, things to do & see, art, music, nightlife, et cetera.
    Have you ever seen the Milky Way in the night sky? It's quite beautiful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    Population density makes a cesspool.

    Why?

    Becauae I say so.
    Population density is a significant part of what makes one, but it is not the only factor.

    Well no duh, its all a personal opinion.

  3. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by Kellhound View Post
    Population density is a significant part of what makes one, but it is not the only factor.

    Well no duh, its all a personal opinion.
    I mean okay but I can't see the justification of density making a cesspool lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fencers View Post
    Big city. I can not stand 'small towns' or countrysides. Fucking no.

    I was born and raised in New York, lived in San Francisco, Boston and London and now live in Chicago currently. The hustle and bustle of a big city are invigorating to me.

    Though I lived in a small town once and got super depressed (and bored). I would have rather been homeless in a city than live there a day longer. Just the worst.

    I can't even vacation in a 'small town' or village. So boring. I like people, interreaction, the noise of life, things to do & see, art, music, nightlife, et cetera.
    I agree, I couldn't live in a city of less than ~200,000 probably. That being said spending a week/weekend in a small town once in a blue moon for me is super enjoyable. I lived mostly in areas under 30k until 18, besides short 1 year stints in a 400k area and a 60k area, and I love the city. I also love going out into the country once in a while.

    Going back into semi-rural Idaho after years, and skiing/getting trashed with old friends and seeing the milky way (with 0 moon) literally light up to where you can see clearly at night is unforgettable. Also going into super mountain/rural Oregon in the summer and doing a bunch a bunch of mushrooms and doing basically the same thing with college buddies is also unforgettable. Ok, I realize both of these experiences were colored by intoxicating drugs, but I still believe these experiences were better than going to the hip bar/amphitheater that week/(end).

    Nature and shit is super dope once in a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    I mean okay but I can't see the justification of density making a cesspool lol.
    I prefer having quiet open space for family activities, clean air, low stress, nice commutes.... High density offers me absolutely nothing positive. Again, it isn't the only criteria, as there are a few metro locations I could tolerate.

  6. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by Chinese Bootlickers View Post
    Have you ever seen the Milky Way in the night sky? It's quite beautiful.
    Thats what I regret the most from the time I used to live in the mountains, or even from my times in Sahel...

    While living in a Metropolitan area, with scenic views to boot, does have its perks, the light pollution is so horrible you get to see only the most luminous stars at best...
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  7. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by Chinese Bootlickers View Post
    Have you ever seen the Milky Way in the night sky? It's quite beautiful.
    That's actually the best argument for the countryside I've seen in the thread so far.

  8. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by Kellhound View Post
    I prefer having quiet open space for family activities, clean air, low stress, nice commutes.... High density offers me absolutely nothing positive. Again, it isn't the only criteria, as there are a few metro locations I could tolerate.
    My high density area has amazing commutes... the low density suburb areas not so much... in fact they often have more traffic with people heading back home or out of their for work.

    When I lived in a three family home in an urban area... it was quiet... always. There were like twenty houses on the block of families and it wasn’t loud nor was there traffic noise to worry about.

    There also are a few parks some rather large around that area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    That's actually the best argument for the countryside I've seen in the thread so far.
    Well, living in the country allows you to see that every night, unless it is cloudy. I remember a comet which passed close to earth several years ago and I was working night shift and when I got off, you could see it as a bright star , with a faint tail on it. When I got home and looked at it...wow!! Was much more of a spectacular view than in the city. I still remember it to this day in all it's glory in the night time sky.
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    Small town. Less traffic and stupid people to deal with.

  11. #111
    The starry sky is a nice perk of rural living. The first year we moved here, we were out every night looking at the sky going “oooh” and “aaah.” Almost five years later, not so much. Yeah, we took it for granted now.

    As for the Milky Way, you will need to go out into the wild to get a clear view of it. There is enough light pollution from even a small rural farming country to wipe out the night sky. Our closest neighbor is a mile away and they don’t have any bright lights in their yards, so we can see the Milky Way on a clear and moonless night.

    Another thing that I learned from trying to take pictures of the sky at night is that elevation matters. The view of the night sky from our place (elev. 4,200' NAVD88) and Palomar Mountain (elev. 6,600' NAVD88) is night and day. Especially for taking pictures, you definitely want to get as far above the inversion layer that trapped the water moisture as you can.

    One thing we won't see in the Milky Way with naked eyes/binoculars/telescopes is colors like you typically see in internet photographs. Those pictures were taken with cameras that accumulate light in ways the human eye cannot. The photographs register the reddish glow of hydrogen gas, but the light is too faint to trigger the color receptors in the human eye, so all we'll see are shades of gray.

    What we will see is a faint, whitish glow, stretching in a huge arc from the southern to northeastern horizon. It almost look like a fluffy cloud with faint light background. It is beautiful. Just not like the photographs.

    Just for comparison. Here is how the Milky Way looks to the naked eyes. Very faint and hard to see unless you know what you are looking for. It could be easily mistaken for cloud.



    Here is how it looks on a photograph taken with Nikon D850 equipped with AF-S NIKKOR 14–24mm f/2.8G ED lens. Mounted on a tripod with shutter release.

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  12. #112
    Big city, small towns suck.

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    Big city, but I can't afford it atm.

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    Small town, no way in hell I would live in a city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    My high density area has amazing commutes... the low density suburb areas not so much... in fact they often have more traffic with people heading back home or out of their for work.

    When I lived in a three family home in an urban area... it was quiet... always. There were like twenty houses on the block of families and it wasn’t loud nor was there traffic noise to worry about.

    There also are a few parks some rather large around that area.
    I have the amazing commute AND the peace. Plus, lots of parks and easy access to open country. As I said, high density has nothing to offer.

  16. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by Kellhound View Post
    I have the amazing commute AND the peace. Plus, lots of parks and easy access to open country. As I said, high density has nothing to offer.
    And I have commute peace parks and tons of services and shops.

    I don’t care for country. “Nothing to offer” is a 100% bullshit phrase youre using based entirely on your disdain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    And I have commute peace parks and tons of services and shops.

    I don’t care for country. “Nothing to offer” is a 100% bullshit phrase youre using based entirely on your disdain
    I have all the services and shops I need/want, at a MUCH lower cost of living. So no, high density doesn't have anything to offer me. That is the point, you have nothing I need or want that I dont already have easy access to, I have access to things you don't (even if you dont like them), and my cost of living is a fraction of urban life.

  18. #118
    Quote Originally Posted by Kellhound View Post
    I have all the services and shops I need/want, at a MUCH lower cost of living. So no, high density doesn't have anything to offer me. That is the point, you have nothing I need or want that I dont already have easy access to, I have access to things you don't (even if you dont like them), and my cost of living is a fraction of urban life.
    Welp, some people just prefer wading knee deep through hobo shit and dodging diseases from the middle ages.

  19. #119
    Quote Originally Posted by Chinese Bootlickers View Post
    Have you ever seen the Milky Way in the night sky? It's quite beautiful.
    Yes. I have traveled all around the world; cities, villages/towns, camping, cabins/lodges, stilt houses, etc. I traveled on boats/ships, trains, horseback, plane, hot air balloon, car, etc. I have seen every continent except Australia.

  20. #120
    I prefer a city in a small, low population country.
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