People rdy to admit classic is way harder than BFA now? (PvP-wise)

[Cyanu]

I mean its been about for 3 months, remember how easy bfa pvp is, your basically just using your rotation in PvP until 2.4k rating.

Classic have engineering trinkets (reflects), and alot of niche spells that only good players can utilize.
Classic have spell-batching for skilled players to predict opponent next spell (Rogue can gouge mage blink for example).

Look at duels between 2 skilled players how complicated they are compared to like a 2.4k arena match in bfa where people just spam their rotations like in pve.

https://www.youtube.com/user/xaryuTV/videos
go here and see how complicated duels are in classic compared to pvp in bfa.

excuse me? what pvp? the endless honor farm? there's only casual PvP in classic if you want to use engineering and potions and all that crap in CASUAL pvp you still can do so in retail...

people complain about pruning in BfA and then proceed to claim classic is better /facepalm... i got to admitt that they're technically correct, they're not pruned if they never got implemented in the first place but... seriously?

for the record i main frost mage, go ahead and tell me how the ridiculous classic itteration that just spams frostbolts is 'harder' than the current one in BfA... ffs man you don't even have ice lance, not to mention flurry,frost ray, meteors, water elemental with it's freeze, ice nova, spell steal, frozen orb,ebon bolt, temporal shield...

i mean how do you even frost mage in classic? you're just a poly bot/frostbolt spammer that can use ice nova or ice block if in trouble, add cs and you've effectively have your 6 button class that includes dmg AND utility... even demon huntards have more buttons than that in retail... seriously count: meta+ 3 mobility skills+ 3 dmg skills+ interupt+stun + 2 defenives+dispel that's 11 buttons vs 8 on classic mage

not to mention that witout haste everything is like 15-25% slower...

well at least you got dampen magic and your trusty wand right? that must mean alot...

[kamuimac]

I mean its been about for 3 months, remember how easy bfa pvp is, your basically just using your rotation in PvP until 2.4k rating.

Classic have engineering trinkets (reflects), and alot of niche spells that only good players can utilize.
Classic have spell-batching for skilled players to predict opponent next spell (Rogue can gouge mage blink for example).

Look at duels between 2 skilled players how complicated they are compared to like a 2.4k arena match in bfa where people just spam their rotations like in pve.

https://www.youtube.com/user/xaryuTV/videos
go here and see how complicated duels are in classic compared to pvp in bfa.

what is hard about people going 100 vs 1 and completly destroying allience atm ? -_-

because there is no other pvp in classic atm.

[Varvara Spiros Gelashvili]

So dead it has about triple the playerbase of retail

Where did u get that information from?

[Will]

Classic raiding and pvp isn't hard. It's just tedious because there's no limit on consumables like there is today, no 1 battle/1 guardian elixir, no pvp potion restrictions, and multiple buffs of the same type can stack. So people who basically invest a shit ton in consumables and go buff hunting will have a huge advantage.

Apart from that it's much slower paced and it's also far far less balanced. Nor do I see why it fucking matters which is harder...

[Seranthor]

Where did u get that information from?

He heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend.

[Ealyssa]

So dead it has about triple the playerbase of retail

Feel free to provide any proof

[Protean]

I mean its been about for 3 months, remember how easy bfa pvp is, your basically just using your rotation in PvP until 2.4k rating.

Classic have engineering trinkets (reflects), and alot of niche spells that only good players can utilize.
Classic have spell-batching for skilled players to predict opponent next spell (Rogue can gouge mage blink for example).

Look at duels between 2 skilled players how complicated they are compared to like a 2.4k arena match in bfa where people just spam their rotations like in pve.

https://www.youtube.com/user/xaryuTV/videos
go here and see how complicated duels are in classic compared to pvp in bfa.

I reached rank 12 at age 15 playing on a computer that might as well have been a rock with graphic glitches and major artifacts that took up a ton of the screen. I had no concern, thought or effort besides participating a lot.

I can't even reach rank 1500 now.


Who gives a shit about which is harder? They're separate games now, go jack off your epeen in whatever you prefer and leave everybody else out of your fantasy.

[Mirishka]

Is it important to you to get that validation?

Of course it is.

[Protean]

So dead it has about triple the playerbase of retail

HAH! Prove it.

[yamix]

This thread seems kinda like it's just trying to get people agitated. They are completely different games. Classic PVP is more or less 1 mistake = death, modern - to me- has generally felt longer and more drawn out. In either case, the difficulty has a lot more to do with your opponents than the rules of the game.

[Apexis]

Nothing about Classic is hard, it is slower and tedious.

[Varvara Spiros Gelashvili]

Nothing about Classic is hard, it is slower and tedious.

Nah classic dueling is hard than lives. I care cause it's the only reason classic has value to me. If live pvp wasn't so boring outside of high-rated threes. I'd drop classic. It's like 3v3, mythic+, rbg, and raids got all the focus. While everything else is left to rot.

[Sylvestra]

BFA PvP is just doing damage, no skill involved.

[hans07]

Where did u get that information from?

Its obvious lol, but who are you to say otherwise? no one confirmed retail have more players nor classic have more.

[Seranthor]

Its obvious lol, but who are you to say otherwise? no one confirmed retail have more players nor classic have more.

What IS obvious is folks make these bullshit claims and then when challenged they backpedal because they cant back it up. It is also obvious that there is a lot of game v game rivalry going on which is pretty funny since no matter which game you are backing you are throwing your money at Blizzard which a great many of you supposedly claim to 'hate'.

[Vakna]

How can PvP be harder in one version of the game to the next? Doesn't the very nature of PvP imply that it gets harder or easier based on the opponent you are facing?

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BFA PvP is just doing damage, no skill involved.

Then why is there a ranking system with the best people consistently at the top? If there was no skill involved wouldn't it just be an RNG fest with whatever team crits first winning? In that case you would see different teams and people at the top every single season.

[thegoodbroham]

"harder?" its like a violation of subject-verb agreement. PvP is not a single player game that you choose a difficulty easy->medium->hard. It's always against players. How can one be "harder" than the other when the players all have the same tools?

They're just completely different game play experiences. Some people like one, some people like the other. There is no inherent "challenge" in either of them.

[Yoshingo]

Slower or faster is not inherently harder or easier.

So, no. It wasn't harder.

[Kaibhan]

harder? lol

[Mardux]

I'm confused by this thread.

People say classic PVP is slow, but then someone is complaining about being 1 shot by a mage, which is the direct opposite of slow..

Just admit you don't know what you're talking about and that you can't kill anyone in PVP, which is why it seems slow to you, which is why you're in here crying.

I'm confused by your reply.

What made you think every person who pvps in classic plays a mage?

Just admit you don't know what you're talking about.