[Megathread] Nintendo Switch

[Jtbrig7390]

Arguing against Pokémon in this thread is pointless. Pokémon is the perfect gift from the gods and Masuda is their prophet. Pokémon shalt recrive no changes, as it is already perfect as Game Freak intended.

It isn't.
But it gets fucken old to see the same person (you) bitch about the game for a year straight in the thread and then come into it with lies after its release to bitch about it some more.

You have complained so much about the game in the past year, I would think Gamefreak murdered your dog or something.

[SirCowdog]

WoW Community : This RNG loot sucks, it's gone too far can you make it more reliable
You : RNG has always been in the game, it's fine.
Wow Community : Explain to us why you think it would be bad if loot was a little more reliable?
You : Well I want a rocket launcher and mounted combat in raids, but we can't just give every random guy what he wants.
WoW Community : You're being ridiculous, that's not remotely comparable, answer the question.
You : Typical strawman, hur hur, didn't even address my point.

I have no stake in this argument. I just own a switch and thought the discussion was interesting. But this quote right here REALLY caught my eye.

It's so true that it hurts. As someone who probably spends more time than is healthy arguing about WoW, the types of "tactics" used by the trolls and haters match this perfectly. No matter how strong and logical or reasonable of a point you make, someone will inevitably try to bait you this way by arguing about something completely irrelevant as though you said it.

[Ausr]

It isn't.
But it gets fucken old to see the same person (you) bitch about the game for a year straight in the thread and then come into it with lies after its release to bitch about it some more.

You have complained so much about the game in the past year, I would think Gamefreak murdered your dog or something.

Guaranteed he bought Sword and/or Shield.

[Lahis]

Guaranteed he bought Sword and/or Shield.

Fucking no.

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You have complained so much about the game in the past year, I would think Gamefreak murdered your dog or something.

Well they did murder 500 dogs so you're right about that.

[Sezerek]

Well they did murder 500 dogs so you're right about that.

Guess these are the kind of statements that lead others to the conclusion that you are some kind of lunatic/maniac that went down the rabbit hole a long time ago.

[Temp name]

Well they did murder 500 dogs so you're right about that.

wat

[Beefhammer]

3 times you've had the opportunity to address the point I made in my first post, 3 times you have not even attempted it. Tell me why the game wouldn't benefit from a difficulty mode? Tell me how the game would suffer by offering players the option of choosing a more challenging play through?

You are barking up the wrong tree with this guy.

[Big Thanks]

Each game in the series does something different than the one before it. How is that lazy or uninspiring? You may not like the changes but each game does change.

If difficulty is what you want then how would you add it without changing the core game play. Different strokes for different fokes. But to say they don't try new things with each game is a outright lie.

What exactly are this "new things" you are talking about?

I know the "wild area" has a multiplayer event.
And this feature is single handedly the most innovation Pokemon did in its entire console franchise.

Am i wrong?

We are not going to say "big pokemon" is anything new...are we?

[Bigbazz]

So let me ask you this, what could they do to make the game harder while also not making it bullshit?

With turn based JRPG's there is only a handful of things you can do to make a game harder and all of them are quite shitty.

1) Gut XP rates.
2) Add Instant kill Mechanics. (depending what pokemon you use this can already happen with dynamax)
3) In the case of Pokemon, Make it so where you can't catch any Pokemon the upcoming Gym leader is weak against.
4) Gut the stats you get when you level. Therefore meaning you would have to grind more. This would make leveling feel pointless.

Does any of those sound fun to you at all? If #3 does then you can do that already yourself. On top of that if they did make a harder difficulty mode it would also start the whole "your not a real fan because you didn't play on bullshit mode".

Previous games allowed All-XP to be turned off, Sword/Shield does not. That by itself is a huge factor causing you to easily over-level during the playthrough. But let's take a memory lane back to 2010 and the Black/White series

For the first time in a Pokémon game, there are different difficulty levels. There are three different modes: Easy Mode (Japanese: アシストモード Assist Mode), Normal Mode (Japanese: ノーマルモード Normal Mode), and Challenge Mode (Japanese: チャレンジモード Challenge Mode). Only Normal Mode is unlocked by default; Easy Mode and Challenge Mode must be unlocked through the course of the games.

Easy Mode decreases the opponents' artificial intelligence and the level of their Pokémon. As such, battles become easier. This mode is unlocked after defeating the Champion in Pokémon White 2.

Challenge Mode increases some opponents' artificial intelligence and the level of their Pokémon, starting from 1 level and reaching 5 levels by the end of the game. Gym Leaders and Elite Four members will also have an extra Pokémon on their team, as well as different movesets and held items. Their IVs are also increased to 30. This mode is unlocked after defeating the Champion in Pokémon Black 2.

To unlock Easy Mode in Black 2 and Challenge Mode in White 2, the respective keys for each version needs to be transferred from a player with the opposite version via the Unova Link.

Amazing what can be achieved when you consider that game designers know more about game design than you do. You've decided more difficulty could never be a good thing because you based it on reasoning and ideas that you felt would help your cause, rather than looking at it logically. All the while you're still ignoring that this is the easiest Pokemon generation thus far, so any more difficulty is better.

Even still, Gamefreak's way of implementing the difficulty selection was typically ridiculous, but it existed all the same and their method of increasing challenge was exactly what would make Sword/Shield a better game.

[Northern Goblin]

The last time this series had any difficulty was when you revisited the Elite Four in HG/SS.

The challenge is in PvP, not PvE.

[Daedius]

If the Nintendo Switch "Pro" ever happens I'll pick that up.

[RobertoCarlos]

So let me ask you this, what could they do to make the game harder while also not making it bullshit?

With turn based JRPG's there is only a handful of things you can do to make a game harder and all of them are quite shitty.

1) Gut XP rates.
2) Add Instant kill Mechanics. (depending what pokemon you use this can already happen with dynamax)
3) In the case of Pokemon, Make it so where you can't catch any Pokemon the upcoming Gym leader is weak against.
4) Gut the stats you get when you level. Therefore meaning you would have to grind more. This would make leveling feel pointless.

Does any of those sound fun to you at all? If #3 does then you can do that already yourself. On top of that if they did make a harder difficulty mode it would also start the whole "your not a real fan because you didn't play on bullshit mode".

Mmo champ where gamestop employees tell you the limits of game design for an entire genre. Lol.

[Temp name]

If the Nintendo Switch "Pro" ever happens I'll pick that up.

Doubt it will, honestly.. There were a lot of speculation about it and then it turned out to just be a battery upgrade

[Jtbrig7390]

Mmo champ where gamestop employees tell you the limits of game design for an entire genre. Lol.

MMO Champ where some random poster seems to think pointing out that I am a Gamestop Employee is some kind of insult.

New Flash: It isn't, I get to talk about and sell video games all day and honestly I enjoy it.

[RobertoCarlos]

MMO Champ where some random poster seems to think pointing out that I am a Gamestop Employee is some kind of insult.

New Flash: It isn't, I get to talk about and sell video games all day and honestly I enjoy it.

That's fine but can you not pretend to be a game developer and know everything there is about designing turn based combat

Kids are some of the best gamers out there. It's insulting to imply they only want brain dead easy games and wouldn't find enjoyment in more challenging options.

And there are plenty of creative ways to do that outside of one shot systems

[Jester Joe]

That's fine but can you not pretend to be a game developer and know everything there is about designing turn based combat

Kids are some of the best gamers out there. It's insulting to imply they only want brain dead easy games and wouldn't find enjoyment in more challenging options.

And there are plenty of creative ways to do that outside of one shot systems

And what makes you more qualified to talk about it?

[RobertoCarlos]

And what makes you more qualified to talk about it?

I'm not the one shutting down ideas of other posters because change is bad!

People don't know what they like till you give it to them. And more options of how to play is rarely a bad thing. Have a tourist mode for little Billy and have a hard mode for people who enjoy thinking.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

I was thinking about this topic myself just a while ago.

Pokemon is brain dead for the most part. (the PvE experience)

So how could we add difficulty to this franchise?
Pokemon is boring and for kids atm...the PvE experience at least.

Do what Colosseum did: make most of the battles in the game Double Battles.

With two Pokemon on the field at once, the number of strategies that can be employed grows exponentially. Enemy trainers used strats, and you couldn't just spam your strongest moves over and over again. That isn't to say that Colosseum couldn't be broken; you could certainly find overpowered combos, but the barrier to getting to that point was higher than in any of the mainline games.

[Jester Joe]

I'm not the one shutting down ideas of other posters because change is bad!

People don't know what they like till you give it to them. And more options of how to play is rarely a bad thing. Have a tourist mode for little Billy and have a hard mode for people who enjoy thinking.

And how do you implemented that hard mode?

What Jt suggested certainly is the default way to do so, make it harder to outlevel things, make more fights type disadvantages to you (aka you'll get one shot), and more.

No one is saying "change is bad". They're saying that change for change sake isn't always the best idea.
Pokemon has always been at its core, a casual game.

To try to appeal outside of that actually could do harm to it in the end.

[Ealyssa]

If the Nintendo Switch "Pro" ever happens I'll pick that up.

Very little chance it will happen this time. A new nintendo system is more likely than a system upgrade of the switch.