Activision's push to get you to buy more WoW tokens is here

[Marrilaife]

It wasn't. I have plenty of friends and acquaintances who have bought max level classic accounts for about same price without thinking twice. They raid MC couple of times, "for old times sake" and never log on after that. It's really not *that much* money.

500$ is more than a minimal monthly wage in half of the eastern european countries, and probably half of a median monthly wage. Wish I lived in your "first world" where 500$ is "chump change" as you described...

It's only $500 if you don't have the gold, that's only like 1/10 of an average folk's salary.

Lolwhat, show me a country where "average folk's salary" is 5000$ per month after taxes. And if that was the case, why would people work themselves to death in 2-3 jobs if they have more than plenty of money already?

[Donatello Trumpi]

Announcement says the mount is in the game for at least another 11-12 months. That's some bad example of FOMO. Granted, if the announcement had said that everyone had 30 days left to purchase it then you might have a point. But t it doesn't so I don't think your point really stands.

You are wrong.
Fomo applies here because of the exorbitant sum of 5 million gold required to buy it, which will be a heavy grind ,even for 12 months, for those who want it but dont sit at tons of gold atm.


Glad I am no longer addicted to wow and its cosmetic collection to give a shit, lol.

[Cæli]

bfa had a deflation if I'm not mistaken and it made gold harder to get, more valuable, more rewarding, and the token price lower

is there anyone who think it's a bad thing?

[TyloBedo]

500$ is more than a minimal monthly wage in half of the eastern european countries, and probably half of a median monthly wage. Wish I lived in your "first world" where 500$ is "chump change" as you described...

Lolwhat, show me a country where "average folk's salary" is 5000$ per month after taxes. And if that was the case, why would people work themselves to death in 2-3 jobs if they have more than plenty of money already?

Median household income in the US is $5,200 / month.

[Marrilaife]

With how easy it is to get 5mil gold in-game without buying tokens, the mount is likely to be bought by players who play the AH or just accumulate gold over time.

It's not "easy", your average casual doesn't run around with 5mil gold, people who feel it's "easy" are people who actively play to accumulate gold through farming, boosting or flipping on the AH, each of those requires specific skills, knowledge, effort and decent amount of time sank.

It's basically like saying killing the mythic endboss in a raid is easy - yes, after all the preparation, time, having a proper team, etc.

Now accumulating gold over time is easy - just spend less than you earn. However it's a slow process and in conflict with the time limited nature of this mount. I know people who couldn't afford the transmog yak until WOD or Legion because that's when accumulating gold was easy for casuals (who usually level a lot of alts anyway).

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Median household income in the US is $5,200 / month.

Household means per person or per family that lives in 1 house which can have multiple people working?

[Queen of Hamsters]

WRONG.
Why buy the mount for 10 when you can get it for 5? Tell me a situation where someone can get 10m in SL but can't get 5M now. I am actually interested in your mental gymnastics where you have come up with the conclusion that the mount will be 9999999 in SL.

Assuming that anyone who will ever want this mount has been playing throughout BFA = the only mental gymnastics here.

You are wrong and clearly ignorant in regards to how the BMAH works. But by all means, keep defending shitty business practices.

[Lord Pebbleton]

Did you miss the hundred of threads begging blizzard to bring back time limited stuff back like CM gear? LEGION's MageTower is still a feature many people liked and its removed by design. But I don't get why it upsets you, if you are not a regular player / collector why do you even care about stuff that got removed?

Because I'd like to come back to retail one day, but as a diehard collector, if I just think about all the stuff I missed forever in just two patches, I lose all motivation.

Also I wouldn't say I am upset... Just a bit annoyed. I don't like stuff being removed in general. I can understand raid/pvp patch content but this is a vendor mount...

[Aurrora]

Blizzard has removed mounts in the past with expansions before.

The last time a purchasable mount was removed from the game was vanilla, and that was only because they were being replaced with updated model mounts.

[rhorle]

The last time a purchasable mount was removed from the game was vanilla, and that was only because they were being replaced with updated model mounts.

I don't think it really matters if the mount is vendor or not. It has happened before. They was even a large scale "charity" operation to do the moose mount for people who otherwise wouldn't be able to get it. This isn't fear of missing out marketing. No one is currently missing out. They are not marketing a way of avoiding missing out. $20 to $500 of tokens (it can be more of that as the price drops) is not a marketing ploy.

Now if they said in the announcement something about tokens then it would clearly be a marketing ploy.

https://www.wowhead.com/item=142403/...ilisk#comments

Also the brawler guild mounts are retired and are vendor bought. So it has happened with the launch of BfA and I don't remember seeing any cries of fomo. Likely because that wasn't the latest buzzword to use in addition to no one really caring about it.

[Faerillis]

Show of hands here?

Who is going to sit there and buy ~30 WoW Tokens for this mount. Who is going to buy a $600 mount? You're all jumping at one of the dumbest shadows I have ever seen.

That's not what this mount is, it's a mount for Gold Farmers who find various ways to make shittons of gold as their own personal way of playing WoW or who got massively ahead during Warlords of Draenor. The 2 Million Gold Spider is not just 2 million gold, it's a hunt and a wait for the guy to spawn and there's just more to it than just a Gold sink, but that is specifically what the Brutosaur is. I am sure the next expansion will see some other sort of inflation which will massively reduce the real cost of the mount and more importantly, the Mobile Auction House. I would be honestly rather shocked if they don't put in a new mount at a new inflated price (~10mil) that doesn't include an Auctioneer.

God you people are melodramatic. I'm a full blown 'Underregulated Capitalism is a sick and broken system that prevents us from moving forward as a species' level Socialist and I don't jump to this shit as quickly as you guys do. Calm. Down.

[Sosuke Aizen]

Although I already have the mount on 2 out of my 3 active Battle.net accounts, this is pretty bad. I’ve always advocated for micro transactions but not on this scale. At least allow others to come up with their plan to gain the gold. I really don’t like the idea of crushing the plans of people that set that goal. Again I already have my mount but it isn’t fair to those that don’t have it.

[Byleth]

Pretty much my logic exactly.

Plus I don't really care for the mounts appearance. I too own the Yak mount, but I never ride it, it's for utility only.

[DeWumpus]

Its a gold sink. Put in place specifically to remove gold from the game (to manage inflation). So it needs to have a ludicrously large price (It's pretty much bling). I guess they weren't happy with the amount of gold it was removing from the game. So we now have the removal in the next exp and adding to the BMAH. More gold will be removed by those who want to get it now before it gets removed and whenever it pops back on the BMAH, bidding wars will skyrocket the amount of gold it keeps removing from the game.

[Ielenia]

It's not "just" a mount. With it you have access to a vendor/repair NPC and, most importantly, a mobile Auction House of your own. That last bit there is pretty considerable.

[Nixl]

As a person who owns the mount and bought it the moment bfa started.

- The ah is nice. However, I could just as well use any other ah without having issues since I dont use it to its most efficiency(play the ah while waiting etc) You wont really be using it all the time either since it cant fit through doors and blocks a lot of your view.
- I dont regret buying it a single bit. longboy is cool.

any other pro/con is basically
-Pros: I have it.
-Cons: You dont.

[RWQ]

It's not for everyone. 99.999% of players don't need to give a flying fuck about the change.

If you don't feel the need to AH on the fly, then it's just for showing off. Even AH on the fly it will take an eternity to pay off the 'investment.'

If you want it, get it. If you don't, don't. Don't feel forced to get it just because they're changing how you do. Part of the point of it is that no on needs it and it's a luxury item for the uber rich

[Aoyi]

I wouldn't at all be surprised if a replacement mount happens to show up in the next expansion. And one that they won't announce until after this one is removed, because if people know another one is coming, they are less likely to buy a few tokens to make their gold farm go a little faster. Though maybe the next one will cost 7 million or 10 million. I can't imagine them not trying this again.

[DazManianDevil]

Same reason people bought that silly Legion Spider for 2m. Is it worth it in a raw sense? No. Does it make you stand out and probably get whispers and attention for being seen as above average? Absolutely.
Why buy a sports car if you never drive over 100mph/kph? It has bad resale value, but it's a status point.

I personally feel that Dinosaur would have sold regardless of the mobile AH, it's a big ol Dinosaur!

Side note, if you can access an AH anywhere, that opens some fun farming possibilities. Imagine you're in the mood to farm Xmog in AQ-20. You can just, scan and sell the BoEs as they drop. Sure the mount is 5m gold and not "Worth it" but convenience to any degree has as much value as you value your time. You don't "Need" 310% flying speed on every character, but you buy it anyway.

At the end of the day, money is only money. It's just a symbol of how you spent your time producing some product of work. If it takes you 3 hours to make $300.00, who cares what you spend it on. You can always just, make more money.

TLDR; if you're the kind of player with several gold caps, go ahead and buy it. Is it actually worth it? No, it's purely a luxury item. I'm not a gold capped player so I will never own this mount. F for Dino Dreams.

[Bigby]

Show of hands here?

Who is going to sit there and buy ~30 WoW Tokens for this mount. Who is going to buy a $600 mount? You're all jumping at one of the dumbest shadows I have ever seen.

I think you're seriously underestimating the amount of whales who will do just that. Hell, a lot of them will bitch and moan but still fork over the cash out of 'Nerd OCD'.

As if people spending something like £80 on self-bought RAF accounts for a damn backpack wasn't laughable enough.

[Kajitheninja]

The only reason I want the mount is because its a brutosaur and its a unique model. the only issue is the 5m gold price tag on what would be for me just a cool looking mount since I dont care much for the AH.