There always has been balancing issues with classes, and there always will be. Last time classes were even good was Mists of Pandaria. It didn't stop them from adding Demon Hunters. This whole "class re-design" mission statement they've made to justify no new class is just adding back abilities after pruning all classes. Class balancing from Blizzard is like Cory Matthews' haircut cycle of shame. After a haircut, his hair looks terrible for six weeks, then it looks terrific for one day; however the day after, he needs to get another haircut. It's the same with classes. Classes are almost never balanced. Then they're good for like one expansion. And Blizzard fucks it all up the following expansion.
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Certain as in there's been a legitimate leak somewhere or gut feeling? Because they've come out and said Allied Races was a BfA feature. I mean, I know they've gone back on their word before, but there's nothing official on that front.
Cataclysm revamp was done bad because:
1. there is no way to get back to original version
2. lots of items were lost in process
3. there was nothing interesting there after leveling.
I'm kinda disappointed about the Shadowlands setting. I don't think "going to the afterlife and beating up death" is an interesting premise for a fantasy game like WoW especially if the afterlife boils down to "a new continent" like OP said.
I've no idea how your RTS mechanic would even work with a PC-centered camera nor how it would change the game in any significant way. If you want to play a Warcraft RTS, there's a great remastered one incoming in a matter of months. I see no reason to implement another genre's mechanics so halfheartedly just like I would, say, see no reason to turn Hunters into an FPS class.
Its a good thing no one cares that you are not "impressed". Blizzard cares even less, random shmucko.
ya dude 0 hype for shadowlands. Looks pretty bad BUT I will say the cosmetic armors from different covenants look awesome but it probably doesn't matter much because everyone will get them eventually and wont be cool. Just like what happened with the class hall order armor from legion. It was cool first 2 weeks to wear a full set then everyone eventually got it too and you felt like a pleb. Outside of that whats the point of that cool armor if the gameplay is still trash. BFA gameplay is trash and I've tested 8.3 PTR that content looks whack AF. 9.0 might have hope if they fix the classes to have fun gameplay but looks like they are just giving a few abilities back to every class they pruned over the years. Which if they give enough main abilities it could be fine but if its just filler utility abilities imma rage.
You seem to forget one thing, the most important of all.
WoW was created to last a bit, they did never even remotely expect it to be so popular, let alone it lasting 15 years.
So now you have a game which people loved, which has been evolving a lot and more people jumped in.
You can not just change it too much more than they already do, because most of us joined 15 years ago and the game is already quite different. I laugh at people asking for WoW2... we are in WoW3 at least already dudes.
So an expansion can not have such an effect as to change the world permanently because a lot of people would simply not like that.
In short: you can not please everyone ,specially over different generations.
WoW was the best game maybe about 10 years ago IMO, as it is your opinion to state it still is today however; from a mechanical stand point its still living in the past and their engine is even further. WoW keeps using the same formula to design their expansions you can see this clear as day from the last 4 expansions.
WoW has played a massive part of peoples lives but say its the 'best' game is being ignorant of the industry it sits in.
Clearly you never got far in PvE content in TBC. There is a certain level of prestige that comes with showing off armor. When everyone can get the coolest looking armor in shadowlands preview so far with most likely easy casual stuff then it makes the other stuff meh. Just like no one goes back to Uldir for xmog runs because its trash looking. The covenant armor sets are probably going to be the best looking sets in the game at launch but everyone will probably be able to get it by week 8 of launch most likely at the latest.
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Disagree again, industry we live in, wanted to come back to classic, after so much "modernization" they wanted to go back to it's original state, 15 years ago.
It's the best game ever, and it will always be for me and many, don't try to rip out stuff that doesn't belong to you.
Unprunning will never be class balance. If anything i think all of us know, there's always a spec on a class that will be unbalanced. No matter what is the class, and how the classes feel good in certain specs. Even when we had talent trees, certain combinations worked better than others. Balancing classes representation is:
They will always be like this:
Instead of this:
No to everything in this thread. If you don't like WoW, don't play it.
They should absolutely not turn it into something else because you want some hodge podge combination of features from 10 different games.
For the most part, something i could agree with the OP was revamping characters and make the gameplay harder that is not just about grinding AP's and a world without meaning, like Argus, you go to Argus and you feel you barely have anything to do. Nazjatar is the same. If anything i wanted the world a bit more like suramar, where it allowed us to explore it deeply and knowing more about the nightborne. How the society worked. No timegating, felt right in the end, you got achievs and mounts, you went to the city itself and were rekt within minutes if you were low geared. It was not the typical "invaders come to destroy the world", the story progression and seeing Thalyssra changing in the end to what she is on the game, you still look at her and think your actions saved her and her people, that were starving to death. It just felt right. The world could be more immersive but changing to how other games look, it's a big no. Wow is amazing how it is.