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    The explorers league are such hypocrites

    Cataclysm: "Yeah let's wipe out this entire tribe of Tauren because they don't want us to dig up and ruin their holy lands in search of artifacts!"

    Battle for Azeroth: "The goblins are such monsters for attacking us when we extracted a resource of mass desctruction from the sword of a titan! Barbarians!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indres View Post
    Cataclysm: "Yeah let's wipe out this entire tribe of Tauren because they don't want us to dig up and ruin their holy lands in search of artifacts!"

    Battle for Azeroth: "The goblins are such monsters for attacking us when we extracted a resource of mass desctruction from the sword of a titan! Barbarians!!!
    Not exactly what happened, but sure, let's pretend that's true, cuz otherwise, you wouldn't have a cause.

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    So when the Horde does that it's fine and all because the Alliance has no right to meddle with Horde affairs nor do they have any right to Silithus, but when the Alliance does that it's wrong and they should be attacked for it?

    Someone else is hypocritical here...

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    These two things don’t sound similar but you didn’t really give any details. Did the explorers league attack the cows or did the cows attack them? The sword also wasn’t in goblin land and I assume the cows were?

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    I have no idea what happened with the Cataclysm deal off the top of my head, but you DO know that the Explorer's league was literally just there to research what was going on and how to save Azeroth in Silithus, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indres View Post
    Battle for Azeroth: "The goblins are such monsters for attacking us when we extracted a resource of mass desctruction from the sword of a titan! Barbarians!!!
    literally not what happened, the goblins were the one extracting the resource, the alliance then came to see whats up and their scouts were killed and any attempt to set up base was met with hostilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lupinemancer View Post
    Not exactly what happened, but sure, let's pretend that's true, cuz otherwise, you wouldn't have a cause.
    This should be on a shirt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemos daemonium View Post
    These two things don’t sound similar but you didn’t really give any details. Did the explorers league attack the cows or did the cows attack them? The sword also wasn’t in goblin land and I assume the cows were?
    Stonespire tribe in the southern barrens

    The explorers wanted to dig up their lands

    they said no

    The explorers league wiped the entire tribe out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indres View Post
    Battle for Azeroth: "The goblins are such monsters for attacking us when we extracted a resource of mass desctruction from the sword of a titan! Barbarians!!!
    Huh? The goblins were first to dig in Silithus, and they were attacked by Alliance (SI:7 not explorer's league) because they suspected Horde "extracted a resource of mass destruction". Alliance didn't know what Azerite is at that point yet, but they knew if Goblins dabble with it, it's either 1) valuable or 2) explosive or 3) both.

    It was also a planned diversion by the Horde, to draw Alliance forces south and away from Teldrassil, so they can't defend it in time.
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    The explorers league is a ruthless organization, willing to slaughter those who get in their way, lets just leave it at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lupinemancer View Post
    Not exactly what happened, but sure, let's pretend that's true, cuz otherwise, you wouldn't have a cause.
    That's exactly what happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indres View Post
    Stonespire tribe in the southern barrens

    The explorers wanted to dig up their lands

    they said no

    The explorers league wiped the entire tribe out
    Ya without any details it’s impossible to tell what really happened. It also still sounds nothing like the sword.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbulter View Post
    The explorers league is a ruthless organization, willing to slaughter those who get in their way, lets just leave it at that.
    They killed titanic keeper Archaedas.
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    If you are suggesting to take my Night Elfs Shadowmeld away, then please find some pike to run yourself through, tyvm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemos daemonium View Post
    Ya without any details it’s impossible to tell what really happened. It also still sounds nothing like the sword.
    "Bael Modan was once a part of the lands that served as home and provider to the Stonespire tribe. Then the dwarves came and began their excavation operations, forcing the tauren out and killing many innocent who opposed. Prospector Khazgorm's own journal says they drove out the tauren because they were being a nuisance to the operations, as for the dwarves it was more important their work than the "comfort of the local inhabitants". Not only that, but Bael Modan's strategic position might be of value to the Alliance.

    The tauren tried to approach the dwarves of Bael'dun to reach a diplomatic resolution but it failed. Tired of waiting and angered about his people's persecution, Gann Stonespire sent a Horde champion to reclaim the journal of Prospector Khazgorm and retaliate against the dwarves, killing Khazgorm in the process. After gathering supplies to make explosives, the champion was tasked do use them to destroy a flying machine to show the dwarves a lesson."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenebra the War Criminal View Post
    So when the Horde does that it's fine and all because the Alliance has no right to meddle with Horde affairs nor do they have any right to Silithus, but when the Alliance does that it's wrong and they should be attacked for it?

    Someone else is hypocritical here...
    Funny how you continue to blame both Garrosh and Sylvanas on us but you won't take responseability for neither Arthas, Daelin, Garithos, The Scarlet Crusade, The massacre upon the amani or anything else

    But you know, can't have the alliance be responsible for their actions. They just do shit then they have their saviour christie golden retcon what they did in her newest book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indres View Post
    "Bael Modan was once a part of the lands that served as home and provider to the Stonespire tribe. Then the dwarves came and began their excavation operations, forcing the tauren out and killing many innocent who opposed. Prospector Khazgorm's own journal says they drove out the tauren because they were being a nuisance to the operations, as for the dwarves it was more important their work than the "comfort of the local inhabitants". Not only that, but Bael Modan's strategic position might be of value to the Alliance.

    The tauren tried to approach the dwarves of Bael'dun to reach a diplomatic resolution but it failed. Tired of waiting and angered about his people's persecution, Gann Stonespire sent a Horde champion to reclaim the journal of Prospector Khazgorm and retaliate against the dwarves, killing Khazgorm in the process. After gathering supplies to make explosives, the champion was tasked do use them to destroy a flying machine to show the dwarves a lesson."

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    Funny how you continue to blame both Garrosh and Sylvanas on us but you won't take responseability for neither Arthas, Daelin or Garithos.

    Don't really know whos more hypocritical here
    Never said I didn't but okay. What does this even have to do with the thread YOU made?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indres View Post
    "Bael Modan was once a part of the lands that served as home and provider to the Stonespire tribe. Then the dwarves came and began their excavation operations, forcing the tauren out and killing many innocent who opposed. Prospector Khazgorm's own journal says they drove out the tauren because they were being a nuisance to the operations, as for the dwarves it was more important their work than the "comfort of the local inhabitants". Not only that, but Bael Modan's strategic position might be of value to the Alliance.

    The tauren tried to approach the dwarves of Bael'dun to reach a diplomatic resolution but it failed. Tired of waiting and angered about his people's persecution, Gann Stonespire sent a Horde champion to reclaim the journal of Prospector Khazgorm and retaliate against the dwarves, killing Khazgorm in the process. After gathering supplies to make explosives, the champion was tasked do use them to destroy a flying machine to show the dwarves a lesson."
    See this is more useful, from going to wowpedia there isn’t any mention of the explorers league or even who started the conflict just that the cows were upset that the dwarfs were digging. There could be more info that’s not on wowpedia but I can’t log onto wow at the moment and quest though the zone so I don’t know.

    This is also nothing like what happened with the league and the sword.

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    Also, how are they hypocrites exactly? I don't remember the League ever claiming they would respect the tauren or anything, so they weren't really hypocrites. Ruthless, even cold-hearted could be a term you could use, but not hypocritical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indres View Post
    Funny how you continue to blame both Garrosh and Sylvanas on us but you won't take responseability for neither Arthas, Daelin, Garithos, The Scarlet Crusade, The massacre upon the amani or anything else

    But you know, can't have the alliance be responsible for their actions. They just do shit then they have their saviour christie golden retcon what they did in her newest book.
    Garrosh and sylvanas lead the horde to do horrible things and in both cases the horde got a free pass by “just following orders”

    Nothing arthas did had any thing to do with the alliance. Daelin didn’t get alliance support which is why he died. Garithos did get support but only because no one knew what was going on and he was the only man of rank. The scarlet crusade has literally nothing to do with the alliance.

    The Amani is something the alliance did but no one cares about them as both the horde and alliance hate them.

    So ya none of those things are comparable to garrosh or sylvanas and what the horde did under them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemos daemonium View Post
    Garrosh and sylvanas lead the horde to do horrible things and in both cases the horde got a free pass by “just following orders”

    Nothing arthas did had any thing to do with the alliance. Daelin didn’t get alliance support which is why he died. Garithos did get support but only because no one knew what was going on and he was the only man of rank. The scarlet crusade has literally nothing to do with the alliance.

    The Amani is something the alliance did but no one cares about them as both the horde and alliance hate them.

    So ya none of those things are comparable to garrosh or sylvanas and what the horde did under them.
    Umm... the alliance of lordaeron??

    Stormwind, Gnomeregan and Khaz'modan were a part of it? The leading members of the current alliance with the same leaders?

    The PvP Symbol is still literally that of Lordaeron and the Skybreaker had Lordaeron crests all over

    Garithos genocided the remaining 10% of blood elves, but I guess they were just following orders aswell amrite? Daelin killed lots of horde and left the alliance AFTER he died. Arthas Genocided Stratholme, which according to the old RPG housed 25,000 people. Teldrassil Housed 24,000. If it's any indication to go by, Stratholme has a busting population aswell, and they were all. Murdered.

    Oh and yeah, Genocide is totally justified if no one likes them. Who cares about the Amani anyway. They totally aren't a proud people like anyone else on Azeroth. Being driven from their own lands and butchered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indres View Post
    Umm... the alliance of lordaeron??

    Stormwind, Gnomeregan and Khaz'modan were a part of it? The leading members of the current alliance with the same leaders?

    The PvP Symbol is still literally that of Lordaeron and the Skybreaker had Lordaeron crests all over

    Garithos genocided the remaining 10% of blood elves, but I guess they were just following orders aswell amrite? Daelin killed lots of horde and left the alliance AFTER he died. Arthas Genocided Stratholme, which according to the old RPG housed 25,000 people. Teldrassil Housed 24,000. If it's any indication to go by, Stratholme has a busting population aswell, and they were all. Murdered.

    Oh and yeah, Genocide is totally justified if no one likes them. Who cares about the Amani anyway. They totally aren't a proud people like anyone else on Azeroth. Being driven from their own lands and butchered.
    Arthas didn’t have backing from Sw gnomes or dwarfs he acted for lorderon and The people of lorderon are now zombies. Nothing he did reflects on the current alliance at all.

    Garithos did have support as he was sent troops but no one knew what he was doing and every one who took part died. This again doesn’t reflect on the current alliance at all.

    Daelin also got no support and every one who was part of his acts died or pulled out of the alliance.

    In all three cases the current people still in the alliance either had nothing to do with the acts or the people who did died. In comparison to the whole of The horde supported sylvanas and all of it got a free pass, these things aren’t even close to similar.

    What happened to the Amani also isn’t justified just no one cares, the horde doesn’t care the alliance doesn’t care blizzard surly doesn’t care and you don’t care either or else you would be making threads on that.
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