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  1. #161
    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    When I guy made that assumption and I corrected him then you defended him it only stood to reason that's what you are implying.

    You see it's better to focus on the topic, come to an understanding and not disagreeing with someone simply because you don't like someone, that's a foolish way to go about life.
    Keep making up bullshit instead of dealing with the fucking facts of the case and the logical questions asked of you. Wouldn't want you to be off script......

    It didn't stand to reason, because I've been repeatedly correcting and questioning your use of the word "follow" over the correct word "chase".

    So stop lying and gain some intestinal fortitude and discuss the actual issues with this case instead of making stuff up and purposely misrepresenting the argument presented clearly to you.
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  2. #162
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    Keep making up bullshit instead of dealing with the fucking facts of the case and the logical questions asked of you. Wouldn't want you to be off script......

    It didn't stand to reason, because I've been repeatedly correcting and questioning your use of the word "follow" over the correct word "chase".

    So stop lying and gain some intestinal fortitude and discuss the actual issues with this case instead of making stuff up and purposely misrepresenting the argument presented clearly to you.
    And again if he was chased, do you think Zimmerman could have caught Martin?

  3. #163
    Is he suing this girl? She should be punished for this bullshit for sure

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...trial-cant-re/
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  4. #164
    Quote Originally Posted by StillMcfuu View Post
    I don't know exactly what you are referring to; I'd assume the neighborhood watch would have rules against shooting teenagers who are apart of the neighborhood.

    Not being obtuse though, if Zimmerman was constantly doing something that the association didn't want, he should have been removed from the watch position. Regardless, even if he wasn't a neighborhood watch guy, he still has the right to ask Martin what he is doing, and Martin has the right to tell him to get fucked.

    Zimmerman is more than likely guilty of something, whether it be a lesser manslaughter charge or some kind of negligence, the issue arises that there weren't many witnesses and they weren't exactly extremely clear. As I said, Martin never had the chance to defend himself. If the outcome were reversed, likely Martin would have gotten off for beating Zimmerman to death. Between zimmerman hanging up with nonemergency police and the 911 call, no one knows what happened except Martin and Zimmerman.
    My first post I addressed this same issue.

    Murder 2 is hard to prove here because it requires a "depraved" mind while the murder was happening but Zimmerman was rightfully being attacked due to the perceived threat he posed to an underage teen he followed in a car, and then chased on foot. The issue with the murder charge is that he probably did fear for his life, but it was all due to his own negligence.

    Manslaughter, negligent homicide, would have been better charges that actually may have stuck, but the public wanted murder charges, which was a huge mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    And again if he was chased, do you think Zimmerman could have caught Martin?
    Trayvon was out of breath when he told Jeantel he had lost the man. Shortly after, Trayvon told Jeantel the man was back and behind him, she said.

    "I told him, 'You better run,' " Jeantel said.

    Within moments she heard two voices. Jeantel recalled Trayvon saying, "Why are you following me?"

    She continued, "Then I heard a hard-breathing man say, 'What are you doing around here?' "
    So running... and Zimmerman caught up. And it looks like he asked why are you following me, the think Derpkitth cared so much about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cizr View Post
    Is he suing this girl? She should be punished for this bullshit for sure

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...trial-cant-re/

    So an illiterate person can't have a friend help her write a letter by dictating or helping them spell words? Is that your argument? That an illiterate person getting help to express themselves in written word is "bullshit"?

    So I guess when I was younger and helped a boy who couldn't read spell well type up a letter that was "bullshit" and his thoughts weren't actually his anymore because I wrote them?

  5. #165
    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    And again if he was chased, do you think Zimmerman could have caught Martin?
    Its not fucking "if". Were know for a fact Martin ran the fuck away. We know for a fact Zimmerman ran the fuck after him. That has never been in dispute.

    Learn the case or stop talking about it.
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  6. #166
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    Its not fucking "if". Were know for a fact Martin ran the fuck away. We know for a fact Zimmerman ran the fuck after him. That has never been in dispute.

    Learn the case or stop talking about it.
    Zimmerman lost site of Martin and went looking for him that's not the same as chasing. If Martin wanted to get away he could have, there is no way Zman could have physically caught up to Martin
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  7. #167
    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    Zimmerman lost site of Martin and went looking for him that's not the same as chasing. If Martin wanted to get away he could have, there is no way Zman could have physically caught up to Martin
    He was fucking running after another person who was fucking running. This is stupid.
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  8. #168
    I mean you guys are making up shit, if Zman had did anything else illegal he would have faced charges on top of the murder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    He was fucking running after another person who was fucking running. This is stupid.
    He wasn't running, he hid and ambushed Zman. If he ran to get away he could have gotten away.

  9. #169
    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    I mean you guys are making up shit, if Zman had did anything else illegal he would have faced charges on top of the murder.

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    He wasn't running, he hid and ambushed Zman. If he ran to get away he could have gotten away.
    What the fuck?

    You are just a pathetic liar at this point.

    You are ignoring known facts that have never been in dispute because you know your stance is stupid and bullshit.
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  10. #170
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    What the fuck?

    You are just a pathetic liar at this point.

    You are ignoring known facts that have never been in dispute because you know your stance is stupid and bullshit.
    I am not lying I am showing you the facts, look at this map, Martin could have easily gotten home but he hid in the bushes and waited for Zimmerman. There is no way Zimmerman could have caught up to Martin so it stands to reason Martin waited for Zman.



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    I'm sorry but I studied the facts of this case pretty thorough through multiple sources, so the shit you spout from your echo chamber won't convince me otherwise.

  11. #171
    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    I am not lying I am showing you the facts, look at this map, Martin could have easily gotten home but he hid in the bushes and waited for Zimmerman. There is no way Zimmerman could have caught up to Martin so it stands to reason Martin waited for Zman.



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    I'm sorry but I studied the facts of this case pretty thorough through multiple sources, so the shit you spout from your echo chamber won't convince me otherwise.
    Is your argument now that he should have retreated if he felt threatened?

    failed argument as HE DOESN'T HAVE A DUTY TO RETREAT this isn't New York or New Jersey, cut Florida.

    Now your problem is Zimmerman caught up to him? That's what the testimony we have says.

    You didn't study shit, stop your lying.

  12. #172
    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    I am not lying I am showing you the facts, look at this map, Martin could have easily gotten home but he hid in the bushes and waited for Zimmerman. There is no way Zimmerman could have caught up to Martin so it stands to reason Martin waited for Zman.

    You are flat out lying. Straight up lying.

    Zimmerman says Martin takes off running. Martin's girlfriend confirms it. Zimmerman's phone recording proves he takes off running after him. The 911dispatcher even tells him not too.

    You are lying or ignorant of the case.
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  13. #173
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    You are flat out lying. Straight up lying.

    Zimmerman says Martin takes off running. Martin's girlfriend confirms it. Zimmerman's phone recording proves he takes off running after him. The 911dispatcher even tells him not too.

    You are lying or ignorant of the case.
    He studied it real real hard.... and says we're in an echo chamber of bias, meanwhile he ignores Zimmerman, girlfriend, phone records.

  14. #174
    Quote Originally Posted by Rymr View Post
    I thought he was Hispanic, and that his family had African roots as well :P Must be quite a stretch to be accepted by white supremacists then :P
    From everything I've seen, he's European (German) and Peruvian. He's still become a symbol for white supremacists, and he's welcomed that support.

  15. #175
    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    He studied it real real hard.... and says we're in an echo chamber of bias, meanwhile he ignores Zimmerman, girlfriend, phone records.
    Next we're going to be told that the criminal mastermind Martin, lured poor unsuspecting hero Zimmerman into a trap.
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    Civilian one follows Civilian two, Civilian two stands his ground, Civilian one shoots Civilian two based on stand your ground.

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  17. #177
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    You are flat out lying. Straight up lying.

    Zimmerman says Martin takes off running. Martin's girlfriend confirms it. Zimmerman's phone recording proves he takes off running after him. The 911dispatcher even tells him not too.

    You are lying or ignorant of the case.
    What seems most likely, given the miniscule degree of Zimmerman's injury that everyone flipped out about, Martin ran away, Zimmerman chased him around, found him, grabbed him and started yelling. Martin shoved him or hit him, Zimmerman fell down and shot. There is pretty much no chance whatsoever he was having his head beat on the ground.

  18. #178
    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    Is your argument now that he should have retreated if he felt threatened?

    failed argument as HE DOESN'T HAVE A DUTY TO RETREAT this isn't New York or New Jersey, cut Florida.

    Now your problem is Zimmerman caught up to him? That's what the testimony we have says.

    You didn't study shit, stop your lying.
    He doesn't have to retreat but he also doesn't have the right to physically assault

  19. #179
    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    He doesn't have to retreat but he also doesn't have the right to physically assault
    Actually yes he does, if he felt the man chasing him was a threat. Which any reasonable person would.

  20. #180
    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    Actually yes he does, if he felt the man chasing him was a threat. Which any reasonable person would.
    Then why wasn't Zman charged for that? You can't make up your own laws.

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