Voters Right Act - Should Felons be allowed to vote?

[Moadar]

Sounds like a court problem.

Not a constitutional rights problem.

Im not saying Im happy about some sick pedo getting to vote, but outliers cannot be how we define the average.

Go work in a prison before you decide how you feel about the average.

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If their voting rights are restricted, they should be given tax exemption. Taxation without representation, sounds quite un-American.

Inmate lovers.

[Beazy]

Go work in a prison before you decide how you feel about the average.

It wouldn't change because I passed Stats 101 in HS and Applied Stats in college. . . . . To be fair, I barely passed Applied Stats.

[kail]

Inmate lovers.

Not talking about inmates are we?

[Beazy]

Inmate lovers.

Once they have done their time, they are no longer inmates.

[Moadar]

It wouldn't change because I passed Stats 101 in HS and Applied Stats in college. . . . .

People arent numbers. Numbers dont victimize people. If you want to run the world with that logic just make them dig a hole and shoot them into it and have the next felon fill it in.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Once there our of prison they should get to vote. They take part in society like every one else so they should get a say. Hell America was founded because of things like not getting a say in there society.

[Moadar]

Not talking about inmates are we?

Ya we are. Doesnt matter what word you want to use. Felon lover if that sounds better to you.

[united]

Ya we are. Doesnt matter what word you want to use. Felon lover if that sounds better to you.

It does matter what word you use if you’re trying to disenfranchise an entire group of people, genius.

[Beazy]

People arent numbers. Numbers dont victimize people. If you want to run the world with that logic just make them dig a hole and shoot them into it and have the next felon fill it in.

LoL Jesus man, where do you work? Huntsville TX?

[smityx]

If their voting rights are restricted, they should be given tax exemption. Taxation without representation, sounds quite un-American.

Chances are good that they aren't paying any taxes as well. Along with not being able to vote getting a job could be a real issue with a felony conviction. Sales taxes would be a different thing as those are used more locally for services like schools, police, fire, roads ie. things that even a a person with a felony and can't vote would benefit from.

[Nurasu]

You might want to look at the map again. . . . /facepalm

Looks like a map of the states most commonly suppressing votes listed in orange to me.

[Doctor Amadeus]

It's one more form of voter suppression, which you can see by your map.

How exactly unless you are suggesting one is forced into becoming a felon

[kail]

Ya we are.

We are not actually. An inmate is someone still serving time in prison, this thread is about someone who is currently not incarcerated. Glad I taught you something today.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

People arent numbers. Numbers dont victimize people. If you want to run the world with that logic just make them dig a hole and shoot them into it and have the next felon fill it in.

No people aren’t numbers and that’s why you shouldn’t judge them based on averages.

[Beazy]

What is a felon?

Someone who has committed felonies.


From the Wik:
"A misdemeanor offense is typically a nonviolent crimes which includes shoplifting, certain type of drug possession, simple assault and disorderly conduct. Felony, on the other hand, is much serious crime, which carries longer jail sentence and higher penalties."

[kail]

Chances are good that they aren't paying any taxes as well. Along with not being able to vote getting a job could be a real issue with a felony conviction. Sales taxes would be a different thing as those are used more locally for services like schools, police, fire, roads ie. things that even a a person with a felony and can't vote would benefit from.

Employment is it's own issue. My point is simple, it would be quite screwy to tax someone on the federal level and deny them their representative vote.

[Moadar]

We are not actually. An inmate is someone still serving time in prison, this thread is about someone who is currently not incarcerated. Glad I taught you something today.

You didnt teach me anything. If you knew anything they still get called inmates or cons outside as well.

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No people aren’t numbers and that’s why you shouldn’t judge them based on averages.

Ya I judge them by how big of scum bags they are. Luckily heroine seems to be doing a good job of thinning the herd of them when they get out.

[Nurasu]

How exactly unless you are suggesting one is forced into becoming a felon

It certainly creates more of an incentive to charge people with more felonies if you don't like some aspect about them, and some populations are at higher risk of committing felonies than others based on circumstance. But yeah, limit the ability of those communities to try to change their circumstances democratically. Seems legit.

[Doctor Amadeus]

Finding reasons to disenfranchise people is almost never an ethical tactic.

In Canada, you never lose the right to vote due to incarceration. We've got special processes to ensure prisoner's rights are protected; https://www.elections.ca/content.asp...ec90545&lang=e

That felons in the USA are denied their voting rights even after serving their sentence in some states is egregious and should be treated as an abuse of civil rights.

What about rapist, should convicted rapist be allowed to vote especially for representatives that can vote on bills like say concerning informed consent?


What if nobody convicted was disfranchised we knew for certain they were guilty of a certain crime, is there no point where you feel a person should lose their input into laws that govern everybody else?

I don't, I don't think wolves should be allowed to vote on what sheep are going to be for dinner.

[kail]

You didnt teach me anything. If you knew anything they still get called inmates or cons outside as well.

By people who don't know the definition of inmate, sure they can get called senators or CEOs as well. An inmate is someone stuck in and not walking around free.

in·mate
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a person confined to an institution such as a prison or hospital.