Russia banned by WADA for the next TWO Olympics

[niztheundead87]

Deflecting? The thread topic is about Russian state sponsored cheating, and you're bringing up other athletes. The only one deflecting here is you.

i said that the majority of the athletes use some form of perfomance of enhacment or another which is still true , given the example of Lance Armstrong.
then the usual person comes and asks me for evidence which i already have provided so no . but its another the russians to blame for everythign case , when wada is another corrupt ridden case

[Wezmon]

Again I didn't say 100 percent does but many do

I think the confusion here is you did say that over and over again:

Everyone is taking something

all i am saying is that everyone is cheating

everyone cheats

doesn't change the fact of my original statement that everyone cheats which is true

everyone does it's undeniable

[niztheundead87]

I think the confusion here is you did say that over and over again:

everyone was an over exageration on my part , yes , but its quite impossible to have 100 percent on this.asking for 100 % on this is insane anyway.
so my initial statement stands true yet ,majority of athletes still use something. the problem is the double standard cases when they ban some but let others go away .

hence why i gave the example of Lance Armostrong

[TEHPALLYTANK]

everyone was an over exageration on my part , yes , but its quite impossible to have 100 percent on this.asking for 100 % on this is insane anyway.
so my initial statement stands true yet ,majority of athletes still use something. the problem is the double standard cases when they ban some but let others go away .

hence why i gave the example of Lance Armostrong

Lance Armstrong, the guy who lost all his accolades and was banned for life from competive cycling because he was caught cheating? That isn't an example of a double-standard either. He didn't get away, you need to get your facts straight.

The US government literally sued Lance Armstrong over his doping.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...t-usps-lawsuit

[niztheundead87]

Lance Armstrong, the guy who lost all his accolades because he was caught cheating? That isn't an example of a double-standard either.

much later on so yeah
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor...ng_allegations

it took them years

[kamuimac]

I like the defenders on this thread: "Why ban Russia!?? Everyone is on drugs!!!"

lol

are you gonna seriously claim that teams from countries like US arent ?

also lets be honest olympics without Russia will be simply boring to watch -_-

[Shadowferal]

o yeah...let legalize the shit so then it won't be about athleticism, but about who has the best drugs.

[noidentity]

Please keep in mind that while Russia is banned in any official capacity it does not mean their athletes are all banned. Russian athletes will be able to participate under no flag as long as they pass the standard drug screening.

[Machismo]

Sadly the only mad person here is you hence why you felt the need to ignore the evidence I provided over and over again.

I'm not mad at all, I'm enjoying watching you try to deflect and blame others for what Russians were caught doing.

[Kaleredar]

I know people will talk about it's cheating blah blah but is it really cheating if everyone is doing it just no one is talking about it? just make it legal so that everyone is on an even playing field. At this point the people not doing it are those without the financial means or support from their countries to do so. You have to see it from their perspective if you could take a drug that would make you the best at what you do and net you millions you would take the risk.

PED are implicitly dangerous and often have long-term side effects, especially to the degree that an Olympic athlete might use them; that's why they're not "condoned."

The Olympics are supposed to demonstrate the best of humanity, not "the guy that got their hands on the most powerful drug."

If there are other countries doing what Russia's doing, crack down on them as well. "All the cool kids are doing it" has never been a justification.

[niztheundead87]

I'm not mad at all, I'm enjoying watching you try to deflect and blame others for what Russians were caught doing.

ThE RuSsIAnS ArE EvErYwHeRe.

[Deletedaccount1]

That kinda sucks for all the athletes in Russia who don't dope but I guess it can't be helped. Maybe the best thing would be to allow their athletes to compete in sports where there isn't an issue with doping like table tennis but not in sports like weightlifting. It is kinda strange to totally ban one of the most important countries in the world from such a big event but Russians really can't help themselves, they are just a country of born cheaters who will do whatever they can to get ahead.

[Machismo]

ThE RuSsIAnS ArE EvErYwHeRe.

In this case, this is a story about the Russians actually doing it...

[Bakis]

ThE RuSsIAnS ArE EvErYwHeRe.

Their trolls are at least.

[Queen of Hamsters]

If they can't compete fair and square, then ban them and keep them banned until they grow the hell up.

Of course I can't, but anyone that watches professional sport knows it's the case

Sounds like a conspiracy theory to me.
"I can't prove it but I KNOW man, I KNOW, and so does ANYONE!!"...

[Egomaniac]

That kinda sucks for all the athletes in Russia who don't dope but I guess it can't be helped. Maybe the best thing would be to allow their athletes to compete in sports where there isn't an issue with doping like table tennis but not in sports like weightlifting. It is kinda strange to totally ban one of the most important countries in the world from such a big event but Russians really can't help themselves, they are just a country of born cheaters who will do whatever they can to get ahead.

The athletes that don't dope can still compete as neutral athletes.

[niztheundead87]

Their trolls are at least.

the cold war ended long ago , blaming the russians for everything doesnt work anymore

[Flutterguy]

No formal presence just means they'll still be there. They just won't be "Russian Federation." If they want to really bring the hammer down, just bar Russians from competing entirely for four years.

[Egomaniac]

No formal presence just means they'll still be there. They just won't be "Russian Federation." If they want to really bring the hammer down, just bar Russians from competing entirely for four years.

The only Russian athletes that will be there will the ones that aren't caught up in the doping though.

[Flutterguy]

The only Russian athletes that will be there will the ones that aren't caught up in the doping though.

That weren't caught. But this doesn't bar Russia from the competitions. Everyone knows the "Unaffiliated" label they'll be given will be Russians. Sorta defeats the purpose of the penalties against the nation. They might as well just ban those specific competitors and leave the Russian title in place.