“Logic: The art of thinking and reasoning in strict accordance with the limitations and incapacities of the human misunderstanding.”
"Conservative, n: A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal who wishes to replace them with others."
Ambrose Bierce
The Bird of Hermes Is My Name, Eating My Wings To Make Me Tame.
They haven't gotten their talking points in order yet. But really who the fuck actually cares about what they have to say? It's usually excrement covered drivel, mostly used to try to derail threads. They have no defense and only care about owning the libs.
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Like the president he has trouble reading, comprehending what he just read, or both. It's clearly in the abuse of powers article. But, as he is a GOP supporter, if isn't specifically spelled out for them they can't comprehend the nuance.
Not so sure that would work, while it would get them past being primaried, it would have the effect of having them effectively run off that portion of their base and losing mountains to the Democrats just before the next redistricting which they would quite literally beg Russia for help and literally burn portions of this nation to the ground than risking losing that.
The ONLY way they will vote again him is if they do it with almost everyone going against or through the silent stuff and even they run off their base. But Trump being there motivates everyone that isn't a soft skulled uneducated rube to come out and vote against them.
I honestly can't help but wonder if they are banking or even they themselves directly working on cheating to keep power given their history thus far.
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That seems more in line with extortion than bribery as they weren't talking about giving bonuses if they did it, they were talking about withholding what was already promised unless they did.
Not bribery but not any better and honestly seems worse.
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U.S. Code § 201. Bribery of public officials and witnesses
"(2) being a public official or person selected to be a public official, directly or indirectly, corruptly demands, seeks, receives, accepts, or agrees to receive or accept anything of value personally or for any other person or entity, in return for:
(A) being influenced in the performance of any official act;
(B) being influenced to commit or aid in committing, or to collude in, or allow, any fraud, or make opportunity for the commission of any fraud, on the United States; or"
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/201
Maybe, my take on it is,
Bribery: Do this and we will give you this as a reward.
Extortion: Do this or we will take away what is already owed you.
The definition of extortion is obtaining something through force or threats.
Basically, its the difference between offering them the carrot or the stick.
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Hey, we haven't talked about Giuliani vs Bus recently.
Giuliani says Trump asked him to brief Justice Department, GOP senators on Ukraine trip
Now, of course, Giuliani is saying he's doing this on Trump's behalf. This will make it harder to disentangle him later.Rudy Giuliani told the Washington Post Tuesday that President Trump has asked him to brief the Justice Department and Republican senators on his recent trip to Ukraine, where he sought to gather information that he believes could undermine the case for impeachment.
Trump has claimed that he never directed Giuliani to dig up dirt on his political rivals in Ukraine, but told reporters last week Giuliani has "a lot of good information" and was going to "make a report" to present to Congress and Attorney General Bill Barr. Giuliani said he hopes to have the report done by the end of the week.
It's far from evident that either the Justice Department or Republican senators want to hear from Giuliani, whose shadow campaign to pressure Ukraine to investigate the Bidens and the 2016 election has landed Trump days away from becoming the third impeached president in U.S. history.
Also, since Giuliani would never be called before the Senate and refused to testify before the House, his comments are pointless. Statements made not under oath are just hot wind.
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Speaking of which, Barr did an interview and basically said "Everything in the Horowitz report is wrong because I choose to believe it's wrong".
He expects better answers from the person he hand-picked to get better answers, who will likely agree that Fake News spying wire tapp witch hunt But Her Emails.
As a reminder: the IG"s job is to handle things like this, because political appointees aren't supposed to do this. And none of this changes what we know to be true, Trump intentionally worked with the Russians and he got caught doing so.
Of course he would..... Welcome to the Republican party were the facts are made up and the truth don't matter. I swear, we should have Drew Cary start introducing them at some point in the future.
Off topic some but...
Fun fact, that channel I asked you to join a while back, been debating with one of our Congressman's daughter on it for a while, backed her into a corner multiple times on multiple things and she never is willing to admit when she is wrong, she will either try and change the subject, nitpick or stop responding entirely rather than admit when she is wrong.
She actually tried to respond to a post I made about the IG and Barr, backed her into a corner on that, so she pivoted to the impeachment stuff and I proved her wrong and backed her into a corner about that, so she went to Obama and Fast and Furious. Then today, she tried to repeat the lie I debunked yesterday and I called her out on it, she now has me blocked. She evidently puts a huge emphasis on her political ideology as part of her identity. When I insulted the a party, she actually takes it personally.
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