Classic AV is the biggest disappointment

[MoanaLisa]

Going for the late vanilla patch for Classic was a mistake to begin with, this is just further proof of that. What a waste.

They wanted a stable platform to launch on. I don't blame them. If they didn't decide to launch on 1.12 so that the revived code would not have to go through all of the changes required through the patches, it probably wouldn't have happened at all.

[Greengrim]

Can't say I didn't tell you so... Told y'all dunno wtf you ask for...

[Monster Hunter]

Those are all interesting points but if you bothered to comprehend my post instead of flying into a rage, I was asking for a source on that version of AV being the worst. As I have said, I like that version of AV. I think it is better than a lot of other versions.

Believe it or not 1.12 was during vanilla so that version of AV is a vanilla AV. I guess you actually had to play vanilla to understand this. So I infact want to play vanilla AV and my motivation for playing Classic is not restricted to a tiny part of the game.

That Version of AV isnt the version people think of when they think of vanilla AV, it's not what they expect.

And tbh if that AV is the kind of quality of content you want in a game im glad your playing classic not retail where Feedback can lead to changes.

[kranur]

Did not expect this. I've lately farmed some AV in BFA to finish up the rep (both regular and korrak) and well it was fun, was expecting it to be similar to korrak's. Instead the AV in classic is just depressing and just another boring mob grind. People avoiding each other, no capping towers, no capping gy's, not even aiming to kill the boss, just kill commanders and that's it, 2-3k honor.

To add to that, the other bg probably can't compete with it in terms of honor gain, so hardly anyone will do anything else.

[Zendhal The Black]

You think you do, but you don't...

You wanted NoChanges Vanilla AV from 1.12 patch (that private servers all run on) and you got it

Now you don't want it so you want the other AV...

what's next? You'll want beta Karazhan or alpha troll models?

[klaps_05]

Gets 1.12 AV as pre-announced.
Surprised Pikachu.

[StayTuned]

Came here to look for this thread

Was not disappointed. I didn't even see one Alliance player in 3 AVs so far, which all finished in under 6 minutes. Booooooooring.

[kamuimac]

They're called zoomers for a reason . In all seriousness though, i'm not sure what people expected from 15 year old content that's easier then Korrak's revenge on retail. Did you really expect people in 2019+1 to waste hours in one bg on a game that'll never progress past Naxx?

thats pretty much what they were expecting indeed.

[Daymanmb]

I didn't even see one Alliance player in 3 AVs so far, which all finished in under 6 minutes. Booooooooring.

Such a big sample size...

[StayTuned]

Such a big sample size...

If the first 3 out of 3 AVs are like this, and we have a thread here complaining about exactly the same thing I experienced in those first 3 AVs... I think the sample size is big enough.

Now I am 5 AVs in and it remains the same. I have 8 honor kills.

On the bright side of things - this is faster than a WS premade win, I suppose. Rank 14 solo queue inc?

[wushootaki]

Releasing 1.5 or 1.6 AV would have made virtually no difference in the length of the matches. 15-30% more powerful NPC's wouldn't do shit. The mines don't do shit, the extra NPC's that snare themselves on Frost armor and everyone rides by, don't do SHIT.

People are stupid, the 1.5 AV on BfA has NPC's that are supertuned to one or two shot everyone and it's still cleared in 15 mins.

Yes it actually would have, because you can't just run through the field of Strife because Korrak is there. The sides were littered with elite npcs that you had to fight if you wanted to Avoid Korrak. Furthermore, the archers at the alliance bridge do even more damage before the nerf, and the Horde base is filled with land mines that can potentially one shot people and need to be disarmed by rogues.

If you don't remember this, you didn't play AV in its prime.

and to people stating that we wanted 1.12 AV...No, a lot of people didn't. When it was announced that Blizzard planned to go with the 1.12 version there were countless threads, reddit posts, and tweets asking them to use an earlier version. But they decided not to.

[vsb]

By 1.12 AV had changed alot from the days of the weekend AV's

I said this multiple times to people saying they were looking forward to vanilla AV.

1.12 AV isn't the vanilla AV of legend. It was allready ruined by then.

You can experience proper vanilla AV in retail, while it lasts.

[Monster Hunter]

You can experience proper vanilla AV in retail, while it lasts.

I know. I've given it a go a few times.

[Rotted]

I get it. If players aren't playing the game the way you want them to play then it's Blizzards fault. "Why did blizzard think this was OK?" I hear you screech. Stop being so entitled.

You know, I bet you're also the kind of person in retail who enters Korraks revenge just to spam "Let them win! its quicker exp!"

[Daymanmb]

If the first 3 out of 3 AVs are like this, and we have a thread here complaining about exactly the same thing I experienced in those first 3 AVs... I think the sample size is big enough.

Now I am 5 AVs in and it remains the same. I have 8 honor kills.

On the bright side of things - this is faster than a WS premade win, I suppose. Rank 14 solo queue inc?

Ive done about a dozen. 3 were forced turtles. Around 100hks total.

[Master Factician]

Yes it actually would have

Source: bIg BraIn.

It wouldn't have made a difference, Korrak can be avoided like every other NPC. Stop this bullshitting, it's annoying.

Nothing in Vanilla was ever difficult, people sucked at the game.

[Thunderball]

You think you do, but you don't...

You wanted NoChanges Vanilla AV from 1.12 patch (that private servers all run on) and you got it

Almost zero private servers ran 1.12 version of AV.

[Tojara]

People who think AV was going to be played the same way 15 years ago when everybody was retarded are actually retarded.

[zoddzero]

"You think you do, but you don't".

A statement not so false as people claimed.

[Thunderball]

People who think AV was going to be played the same way 15 years ago when everybody was retarded are actually retarded.

It would be played exactly the same if AV was the same, but it's not.