Poll: Rate the movie STAR WARS™: The Rise of Skywalker™

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  1. #3921
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanguinerd View Post
    They do not. Anakins story has been made useless. He didn't bring balance because Palpatine didn't die. The movie does say Luke WAS aware of this but didn't do anything either.

    And TFA just states from the ashes of the Empire the First Order rises or some shit, despite the Republic being around and in power. They just let it happen.

    What's also weird is why the First Order even bothered with Starkiller Base considering planet destroying cannons got fitted onto those new fancy Star Destroyers.

    It's all just shite.
    There's Alot of weirdness

    Like if you missed it you would think caurisant got blown up by star killer, but it was actualy horsian system, the new Republic moved capitols to distance its self from the legacy of the empire.

    But that begs the question why the new Republic was suddenly gone when the new Republic accounts for hundreds of worlds and still has its old capitol but now they were suddenly rebels again? Even though they destroyed starkiller base?

    Any one else get the feeling the story is really rushed?

  2. #3922
    Quote Originally Posted by Monster Hunter View Post
    Do they at least try to reckon it up with the chosen one prophesy?

    I mean the whole story of anakin/vader is him bringing balance to the force by ending the jedi and the sith.

    But then I guess the whole last 3 episodes haven't made much sense in that regard.

    Also where did the first order even come from. I haven't seen the latest one but is that addressed?
    Rey is apparently the real chosen one and everything that came before doesn't matter.

    As far as the First Order its covered in the supplemental material. A small remnant of the most die hard parts of the empire retreated into unknown space and then just... built a massive military that was bigger and deadlier then what the original empire had. That's pretty much all we ever get told.

  3. #3923
    Quote Originally Posted by Fayolynn View Post
    But you are wrong because Han was more of a father figure to her then Luke so if anything she should have taken his name. If you want to make the Leia argument that falls apart too because Leia was raised an Organa and married a Solo. Its a huge stretch that of those 3 names Skywalker is the one she would pick. Its a nonsense bullshit choice.
    Agreed. There have been leaks saying that this is a bullshit contrivance made by KK so that the movie title focuses on Rey. There is no evidence of this, but supposedly Anakin, Luke, Ben, and Rey all had a role in the final battle. All of Hayden's physical acting scenes were cut.

    Normally I wouldn't believe leaks like this, but they're bunched in with everything else being right. They filmed 4 hours of footage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldielocks View Post
    All of Hayden's physical acting scenes were cut.
    Hell, he dodged a bullet with that one

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    On a side-note though, I got really giddy when I heard Ahsoka's voice in that moment Rey had the vision about all the Jedi being with her.
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  6. #3926
    Quote Originally Posted by oplawlz View Post
    She holds complete blame for not ensuring that a basic plot wasn't outlined for all three movies before the first even started shooting. You don't write a trilogy, specifically a trilogy that has 6 movies worth of continuity to consider, one at a time.
    The only bad decision in this regard was hiring three people (Treverrow was originally slated to write and direct IX) to make a continuous story when only one of them had talent.

    And it aint JJ.


  7. #3927
    Was better than number 7 and 8. Sadly the sequels have no overarching story (because 8 can't be considered a valid movie, thankfully they ignored everything that happened in 8, even Finn/Rose romance), Palpatine didn't really fit in (was alone more epic than all of 7+8 combined though), i mean, i assumed his body was a clone and this entire planet was a giant facility he build in his reign. But he was still an asspull. Epic, but asspull. Kylo kinda grew on me, but still his behaviour was kinda wtf: I mean, make up your mind about your goals. You gave up everything for power and when you had it you threw it away for Rey. Like pretty sure the First Order has plenty of hot women, stop thinking with your dick dude...
    Leia could stun Kylo the whole time? Would have been useful before. It's not that she was terribly important to the plot anyway, so her dead was not nearly early enough...
    And hux as the spy. Holy shit. That dude blew up 5 planets. He killed more (non clone) people than every other character in the star wars universe. And they forgive him for that because of what? His information? He did not even tell anything new. They intro told us that "Palpatines voice is heard throughout the galaxy", so everyone knew about it. The search for the sith holocron was useless, Kylo would have found Rey early enough and he enabled the passage to palpatine. So what justifies letting Hux live?
    And what's up with these Telepathy scenes in every movie? Why are Rey and Kylo the only one's that can do that? And why can they even do that?
    Holy shit. Every single dialog in the first half of the movie was boring as hell, like no character building, no additional information, just banter.
    But palpatines planet was cool. And the final battle: I shed a tear when the galaxy fleet arrives, mostly because my biggest fear was, that the final order fleet would never be useful.
    But palpatines death was pathetic. There is no real reason his granddaugther would be more powerful than him, considering he drained her and Kylo and then proceeded to annihilate a fleet of thousands of ships all by himself. Really sad, he should never lose a battle of willpower. His first death was unexpected betrayal, which was questionable but still okay. But this? Pathetic storywriting. Speaking of pathetic: Kylo and Rey's kiss. Like why? I sat in the theatre with closed eyes and went "please don't kiss, please don't kiss, pleeeeaaase. Oh god why???"
    I could go on, but that would be pointless.

    But what was the thing Finn wanted Rex to know? Did they just forget about that?

    So why was it better than 7 and 8? Palpatine. The fact that as a standalone movie, this would be much better. The battle at the end. The pulling the freighter out of the sky scene. The battle at the end again (tbh, it's been 4 hours since I watched the movie and I forget the first half already, the end end was just too epic and pathetic at the same time that the rest of the film is blurred already). And lastly the fact that you felt that they were learing from their mistakes with movie 7 and 8. Less stupid jokes, Rey is learning something at last, no feminist agenda and the movie had a coherent red thread.


    Se yeah, I would rate it as my number 5 favorite Star Wars movie. worse than original 3 and Revenge of the Sith, better than PM, AotC, 7 and 8. Right in the middle of the pack.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slybak View Post
    Like the kind of people for whom Harry Potter is too high-brow.

    Should have given the whole thing to Rian Johnson. What a waste.
    Funny enough after the Film my gf resumeed: "The film kinda reminded me of Harry Potter. With the occlumentus scenes from book 5 and the horcrux search".

    But no, Rian Johnson had his shot and that shot was so incredibly terrible that even a god of writing could not have written a satisfactory story for movie 9.

  8. #3928
    Quote Originally Posted by LordVargK View Post
    But no, Rian Johnson had his shot and that shot was so incredibly terrible that even a god of writing could not have written a satisfactory story for movie 9.
    So why was it better than 7 and 8? Palpatine.
    lmao chow down on this pre-chewed garbage.

  9. #3929
    Quote Originally Posted by Slybak View Post
    The only bad decision in this regard was hiring three people (Treverrow was originally slated to write and direct IX) to make a continuous story when only one of them had talent.

    And it aint JJ.

    His success with Knives Out has no bearing on TLJ. He can make a damn good movie, that doesn't mean he can make a good Star Wars movie. At least not one that's tied into the core series.

  10. #3930
    Quote Originally Posted by Fayolynn View Post
    His success with Knives Out has no bearing on TLJ. He can make a damn good movie, that doesn't mean he can make a good Star Wars movie. At least not one that's tied into the core series.
    Except he made a good Star Wars movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordVargK View Post
    Se yeah, I would rate it as my number 5 favorite Star Wars movie. worse than original 3 and Revenge of the Sith, better than PM, AotC, 7 and 8. Right in the middle of the pack.
    Return of the Jedi is easily the 3rd worst movie in the franchise behind TLJ at 1 and TPM at 2. The cringe factor throughout the entire movie is astronomical

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slybak View Post
    Except he made a good Star Wars movie.
    no, he didnt. That movie was so bad that almost everything wrong with Ep9 can be attributed to it.

  12. #3932
    Quote Originally Posted by Slybak View Post
    Except he made a good Star Wars movie.
    I wouldn't call a 43% fan rating on rotten tomatoes good.

  13. #3933
    Quote Originally Posted by ZazuuPriest View Post
    no, he didnt. That movie was so bad that almost everything wrong with Ep9 can be attributed to it.
    TROS tossed out everything in TLJ and yet TLJ is responsible for everything bad with TROS; which would be a lot, because TROS is uniformly terrible.

    Again, pre-chewed garbage is what you babies asked for and its what you got.

    Flaming isn't allowed. Infracted
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  14. #3934
    I would have honestly prefered a time travel story if i am being honest.

    The whole "I am all the siths" and "I am all the jedi" was so cringe i dunno if they tried to copy the stuff from endgame but the "I am Iron man" and "I am Inevitable" parts are more central to the characters of Tony Stark and Thanos.

    And no Episode 9 was bad because it was bad, you could honestly skip TLJ and go straight from 7 to 9 and just have "Snoke died and so did luke".

  15. #3935
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanguinerd View Post
    They do not. Anakins story has been made useless. He didn't bring balance because Palpatine didn't die.
    True, I didn't think of that. Though the way Anakin's prophecy came true I never liked how that was handled either. Darth Vader/Anakin just lifted Palpatine and threw him into a reactor in RotJ. It was very anticlimactic. It would have been far cooler to see Vader/Anakin win in a 1vs.1 fight with him, using the force, lightsaber etc. Point is, that prophecy already was pretty terrible the way it played out, but now it's even more useless than it was before thanks to this last movie.

    Palpatine was strong, but he wasn't invincible. Windu won against him in ep 3 cause he used Vaapad lightsaber form, which granted the user more energy as time went on and was especially effective against dark side users since it turned their own hatred/dark powers against them.
    Last edited by Akasha64; 2019-12-20 at 03:48 AM.

  16. #3936
    Quote Originally Posted by ZazuuPriest View Post
    no, he didnt. That movie was so bad that almost everything wrong with Ep9 can be attributed to it.
    So much this.

    Snoke gone? Gotta bring back Palpatine now.

    Resistance wiped out and no one wants to help? Fleet outta nowhere!

    Rey's parents were no one despite it being set up she was a Skywalker in E7? Turns out shes a Palpatine

    Luke wouldn't train Rey? Just have Leia do it even though realistically she was busy helping rebuild the republic and didn't have time to be trained herself.

  17. #3937
    And how the fuck did Palpatine survive?


    Also the Film LARGELY ignored TLJ

    Do i even need to point out that one of the writers for this catastrophe was the writer of Dawn of JUSTice and JUST ICE league?

  18. #3938
    Quote Originally Posted by Slybak View Post
    TROS tossed out everything in TLJ and yet TLJ is responsible for everything bad with TROS; which would be a lot, because TROS is uniformly terrible.

    Again, pre-chewed garbage is what you babies asked for and its what you got.
    No, we asked for a story that actually made sense and carried the story forward. Not a meta movie the deconstructed star wars and shit on the heroes of old.

  19. #3939
    Quote Originally Posted by ZazuuPriest View Post
    Return of the Jedi is easily the 3rd worst movie in the franchise behind TLJ at 1 and TPM at 2. The cringe factor throughout the entire movie is astronomical
    There's just as much cringe in TROS, if not more. I remember I just started laughing when Dark Rey hissed at Rey. Fucking hell those monster teeth.

  20. #3940
    I didn't think the rumors would be right...but this movie is hot garbage...jesus freaking christ

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