Originally Posted by
CrawlFromThePit
I don't yell at people irl, but in the very specific context of running a M+, if someone makes a mistake, is told politely how to do it right, and fucks up again several times, they will reach a point where I do believe they deserve to be either yelled at or ridiculed. Because at this point they are the ones being toxic to the rest of the group. Toxicity is not just being bad mannered, toxic is anything that makes the experience unpleasant, that can very well be in actions alone. If people should make effort to be less toxic and more polite, others equally have to make efforts to be better and less bad.
It's perfectly logical, right? I mean why should one group of people be accepted for all their shortcomings but the other group is supposed to not only be forced to carry them, but also do it in the kindest way without saying a word to express their feelings? And keep in mind I'm never talking about throwing insults right off the bat I made this very clear that I don't support this at all. But it seems extremely selfish and naive to expect everyone to remain perfectly friendly to you when you waste their time, right? There's like a range of acceptance, where people should not be yelled at for the first mistakes but also shouldn't expect the group to be happy if they fuck up a bunch of times either. It's like give and recieve, can't have one side give all the time, we're all in there together.
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I've had that happen to me in Classic, some terrible rogue got raped by mobs at the limit of my vision, I got there and saw the chest surrounded by mobs, as I was fighting them the rogue respawned and stole the chest he very obviously did not deserve.
Needless to say I showed that bitch what toxic sounds like after his toxic behaviour. Mutually toxic, does that cancel out?