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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    I think I see the problem.....you clearly don't know what evidence is.

    I mean if you think those things are evidence this was a sham, and didn't think there is evidence to Trump's crimes, then clearly the problem is one of vocabulary.
    It's also the whole 'Dems have been against him since day 1!!!' thing that rubs me the wrong way. Like, yeah, he's shown he's been a deplorable human being since before he was even in the running, of course a lot of people don't like him for reasons beyond his - admittedly shitty - policies. We were content with ignoring him up until he thrust himself into a position of authority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyonai View Post
    It's also the whole 'Dems have been against him since day 1!!!' thing that rubs me the wrong way. Like, yeah, he's shown he's been a deplorable human being since before he was even in the running, of course a lot of people don't like him for reasons beyond his - admittedly shitty - policies. We were content with ignoring him up until he thrust himself into a position of authority.
    I'd be more concerned with people who liked him considering his history with things like running a fake university to scam people out of money and his racist "birtherism" conspiracy theory.

    Seems pretty natural to dislike him from day 1 of his campaign since, you know, he didn't magically pop into existence when he started running for president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DKjaigen View Post
    So everything the democrats have been doing was complete waste of time . good to know
    Ah yes, don't enforce the law just because the one guilty might get away with it. 'Cause that's smart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DKjaigen View Post
    And if the senate says no he isn't he is not a criminal and a traitor and you are wrong.
    That's not what that means. Did you pass 5th grade civics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by muto View Post
    It’s only okay if the Democrats do it. They’re literally only trying to impeach him because they know they can’t beat him anyways with how well the U.S. economy is doing. The stock market is setting record highs.
    If only the stock market helped most Americans.

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    man, isn't it funny that the democrats tried so hard to shove this impeachment through at lightning speed, but the second they can get it to go through, they suddenly decide "oh no, now we have to keep this in a back pocket for no apparent reason!"

    Almost like it was a cheap political stunt that they know will blow up in their faces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kasuke06 View Post
    man, isn't it funny that the democrats tried so hard to shove this impeachment through at lightning speed, but the second they can get it to go through, they suddenly decide "oh no, now we have to keep this in a back pocket for no apparent reason!"

    Almost like it was a cheap political stunt that they know will blow up in their faces.

    What are you even talking about? McConnell publicly announced he was going to betray his oath of office.

    What Trump did left democrats with no options, they could not ignore what he did. They did their job, there is no reason send it over to Moscow Mitch to create a shit show for Trump. I'd be content if they never sent it to the senate, no one ever thought the senate would remove him. Trump just didn't give anyone a choice in regards to what actions needed to be taken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kasuke06 View Post
    man, isn't it funny that the democrats tried so hard to shove this impeachment through at lightning speed, but the second they can get it to go through, they suddenly decide "oh no, now we have to keep this in a back pocket for no apparent reason!"

    Almost like it was a cheap political stunt that they know will blow up in their faces.
    I think the "TDS" insult has got to be the most severe case of self-ownage ever conceived. There has to be some level of derangement to consistently ignore reality to the extent displayed by our resident "lololololol dem dum democrats lolololololol" posters like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kasuke06 View Post
    man, isn't it funny that the democrats tried so hard to shove this impeachment through at lightning speed, but the second they can get it to go through, they suddenly decide "oh no, now we have to keep this in a back pocket for no apparent reason!"

    Almost like it was a cheap political stunt that they know will blow up in their faces.
    "no apparent reason" AKA McConnell stating openly and publicly that the senate would not have a fair trial?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kasuke06 View Post
    man, isn't it funny that the democrats tried so hard to shove this impeachment through at lightning speed, but the second they can get it to go through, they suddenly decide "oh no, now we have to keep this in a back pocket for no apparent reason!"

    Almost like it was a cheap political stunt that they know will blow up in their faces.
    Wait a tick. Weren't Republicans complaining it was going to slow? Then Dems picked up the pace? So now they are complaining that it's going to fast and then when it went slow again they are complaining again?

    What speed should this be? We already know Republicans have said they will vote and work with the President on this, even though it's plain as day what he did, which was illegal. So again, how fast or slow should this be? Pick one and stick to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kasuke06 View Post
    man, isn't it funny that the democrats tried so hard to shove this impeachment through at lightning speed, but the second they can get it to go through, they suddenly decide "oh no, now we have to keep this in a back pocket for no apparent reason!"

    Almost like it was a cheap political stunt that they know will blow up in their faces.
    Man, isn't it funny that the republicans bitched so hard about this impeachment being done at lightning speed, boy the second it stalls, they suddenly decide it's not fast enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clone View Post
    Man, isn't it funny that the republicans bitched so hard about this impeachment being done at lightning speed, boy the second it stalls, they suddenly decide it's not fast enough.
    Remember Trumpsters on this very board going on and on about how it should be going faster? Now it's going fast and they want it to slow down? It's like a child that wants on the fast roller coaster, but then cries the whole time as soon as it starts.

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    Once again, it's time for Guess the Speaker!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Once again, it's time for Guess the Speaker!



    "That's a Team Trump email?"

    OMB to the Pentagon, dated July 25th, just hours before the call, yes.
    Great more second hand information

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelinrah View Post
    "no apparent reason" AKA McConnell stating openly and publicly that the senate would not have a fair trial?
    Welcome to politics. This impeachment procedure was never about being fair from either side but about who has the most asses in the senate or house of representatives. You want a fair trial then you go to a court and you dont use a BS political tool. The left wingers here think that impeachment is about being righteous. But i just think ,and many many others, its just incredibly stupid and petty . The reason why Trump got impeached is because the dems got the majority in the house and everybody knows it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DKjaigen View Post
    Great more second hand information
    The 146 pages of heavily redacted emails between the Office of Management and Budget and the Pentagon
    I don't think you know what "second hand" means.

    Welcome to politics. This impeachment procedure was never about being fair from either side but about who has the most asses in the senate or house of representatives. You want a fair trial then you go to a court and you dont use a BS political tool.
    The whole point of impeachment and removal is so Trump can go to court. While he's in the White House he can't as it would impede his ability to govern.

    But i just think and many many other think i just incredibly stupid and petty .
    I know this is a typo but LOL.

    The reason why Trump got impeached is because the dems got the majority in the house and everybody knows it.
    He was impeached because he withheld aid, that was approved by Congress, to a foreign country in the hope they would create a shame investigation to smear Biden. And when he was caught he released the proof himself of his interaction with Ukraine and went on T.V. to ask China to investigate Biden for no reason what so ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Templar 331 View Post
    He was impeached because he withheld aid, that was approved by Congress, to a foreign country in the hope they would create a shame investigation to smear Biden. And when he was caught he released the proof himself of his interaction with Ukraine and went on T.V. to ask China to investigate Biden for no reason what so ever.
    Who cares ? this is a matter of opinion and because of the republican majority in the senate your opinion is wrong because that is how politics work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DKjaigen View Post
    Who cares ? this is a matter of opinion and because of the republican majority in the senate your opinion is wrong because that is how politics work.
    Its your opinion vs facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clone View Post
    Man, isn't it funny that the republicans bitched so hard about this impeachment being done at lightning speed, boy the second it stalls, they suddenly decide it's not fast enough.
    All have to do with the Republicans wanting to push an acquittal through the senate as fast as possible, with no interest in a fair trial.

    The house impeaching but sitting on it for a while denies the GOP the ability to do that, while having to contend with Trump being one of only 3 presidents in US history to be impeached in the meanwhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DKjaigen View Post
    Great more second hand information
    How is that second hand exactly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DKjaigen View Post
    Who cares ? this is a matter of opinion and because of the republican majority in the senate your opinion is wrong because that is how politics work.
    Things that actually happened are not opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DKjaigen View Post
    Who cares ? this is a matter of opinion and because of the republican majority in the senate your opinion is wrong because that is how politics work.
    Jesus, this is amazing.

    No, the facts of what happened are not an opinion. The GOP's stance that the facts of Trump's wrongdoings are irrelevant, don't change what he did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DKjaigen View Post
    Who cares ? this is a matter of opinion and because of the republican majority in the senate your opinion is wrong because that is how politics work.
    Which is why there is such hate for Republicans. They and you don't care what reality is, only that they stay in power and look right. By working against the Constitution they have shown their true purpose and by acting indifferent you have shown they can get away with it.

    Just because the game has been tilted in their favor doesn't mean they are right. Just because Trump won't get removed doesn't mean what he did was legal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    Jesus, this is amazing.

    No, the facts of what happened are not an opinion. The GOP's stance that the facts of Trump's wrongdoings are irrelevant, don't change what he did.
    But if it is impeachable is a matter of opinion. And the majority of the senate says no . So Trump is free of all wrongdoing . The democrats dug their own graves with this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Templar 331 View Post
    Which is why there is such hate for Republicans. They and you don't care what reality is, only that they stay in power and look right. By working against the Constitution they have shown their true purpose and by acting indifferent you have shown they can get away with it.

    Just because the game has been tilted in their favor doesn't mean they are right. Just because Trump won't get removed doesn't mean what he did was legal.
    ACCORDING TO YOU! that's why the entire country is divided in a 50% split . You say the constitution is breached but i do not agree. And im absolutely certain that if trump called for the investigation of a republican senator you would not give a fuck because it would be politically convenient for you.

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