Poll: Who is the best archer on Azeroth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Yes but Alleria was not on Azeroth at the time!
    Alleria has been on Azeroth at the same time as Sylvanas, though; prior to and during the Second War before she left for Outland alongside Turalyon and Khadgar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verdugo View Post
    Didnt they say that shit was just an artistic liberty?
    I don't know. Have they? I never heard that, before.
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    You all seem to forget someone...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashiraya View Post
    The question is not about who is the smartest, nor is it about shadow powers.

    It's about archery prowess. And the archery feats attested to Sylvanas are so totally absurd they would not look out of place in the Matrix.

    As said, I don't even like Sylvanas, but the omghaxx0r level of skill the writers have assigned to her is basically godmode (if she chose to use it).
    If you're the best archer on the planet, then why go into close quarters combat with a trained knight? Smarts come into play, you can be a great archer but if you don't use your skill wisely it means nothing. So she can hit a target from a few miles away...how much did that skill help her? If she wasn't raised by Arthas she wouldn't even be in this competition...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenebra the War Criminal View Post
    And Sylvanas described Alleria as the brightest of the order of archers of which she was part of. You don't need feats to prove something when you are already described as that.
    'Brightest' does not have to refer to marksmanship skills. The Farstriders emphasised a large range of skills from close combat to wilderness affinity. The context in which 'best and brightest' was used to describe Alleria does not have to imply marksmanship, whereas Sylvanas' feats undeniably do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kithelle View Post
    If you're the best archer on the planet, then why go into close quarters combat with a trained knight? Smarts come into play, you can be a great archer but if you don't use your skill wisely it means nothing. So she can hit a target from a few miles away...how much did that skill help her? If she wasn't raised by Arthas she wouldn't even be in this competition...
    I believe the cinematic you refer to has been meme'd a bit out of context. She doesn't powerslide into frostmourne, she powerslides a bit, Arthas then charges up to her (he is mounted, remember) and stabs. Don't get carried away with the memes.

    As I said, this is not a challenge of who is smartest. This is about marksmanship, and being stupid does not mean you cannot use a bow.
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    its canonically Sylvanas (even in life) with only Alleria coming close to challenging her

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashiraya View Post
    'Brightest' does not have to refer to marksmanship skills. The Farstriders emphasised a large range of skills from close combat to wilderness affinity. The context in which 'best and brightest' was used to describe Alleria does not have to imply marksmanship, whereas Sylvanas' feats undeniably do.



    I believe the cinematic you refer to has been meme'd a bit out of context. She doesn't powerslide into frostmourne, she powerslides a bit, Arthas then charges up to her (he is mounted, remember) and stabs. Don't get carried away with the memes.

    As I said, this is not a challenge of who is smartest. This is about marksmanship, and being stupid does not mean you cannot use a bow.
    It doesn't matter what she did, she is a expert in archery and she went to close quarters combat with a trained and powerful knight...it's moronic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kithelle View Post
    It doesn't matter what she did, she is a expert in archery and she went to close quarters combat with a trained and powerful knight...it's moronic.
    For those with less than perfect memories I'll remind you that

    A: She was out of arrows after hours of fighting

    B: Arthas rode up to her, this happens in Warbringers and in the book Arthas, rise of the lich king. In the book it goes further into detail that she was utterly surrounded by the scourge at the end, and the only reason she didn't die there was because Arthas made them pull back so he could kill her himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenebra the War Criminal View Post
    And Sylvanas described Alleria as the brightest of the order of archers of which she was part of. You don't need feats to prove something when you are already described as that.
    You mean the plaque on which Sylvanas would say only the best things about her sister who she thought was dead. Nothing in canon so far in or out of the game has shown Allleria with any comparable archery skill to Sylvanas.
    Quote Originally Posted by WoWKnight65 View Post
    That's same excuse from you and so many others on this website and your right some of threads do bully high elf fans to a point where they might end up losing their minds to a point of a mass shooting.
    Holy shit lol

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    I remember Shandris being described as the best marksman in the world. Not sure if that means she can hit something regardless of what her weapon is or if it's exclusive to a bow and arrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Friendlyimmolation View Post
    For those with less than perfect memories I'll remind you that

    A: She was out of arrows after hours of fighting

    B: Arthas rode up to her, this happens in Warbringers and in the book Arthas, rise of the lich king. In the book it goes further into detail that she was utterly surrounded by the scourge at the end, and the only reason she didn't die there was because Arthas made them pull back so he could kill her himself.

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    You mean the plaque on which Sylvanas would say only the best things about her sister who she thought was dead. Nothing in canon so far in or out of the game has shown Allleria with any comparable archery skill to Sylvanas.
    Yes that plaque. The one that backs up his claim in english words regardless of how you interpret it. The word "canon" within blizzard games is an oxymoron. More things get retconned in and out than any other universe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Highelf View Post
    Yes that plaque. The one that backs up his claim in english words regardless of how you interpret it. The word "canon" within blizzard games is an oxymoron. More things get retconned in and out than any other universe.
    So once again, to make this as understandable as possible, it's a plaque written to honor the supposedly dead Alleria. Sylvanas saying she was the brightest of the order doesn't mean she was the best archer, hell one can say that it had nothing to do with archery at all.
    Quote Originally Posted by WoWKnight65 View Post
    That's same excuse from you and so many others on this website and your right some of threads do bully high elf fans to a point where they might end up losing their minds to a point of a mass shooting.
    Holy shit lol

  11. #111
    Sylvanas is no longer on Azeroth so Idk why she is even on the list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty123456 View Post
    Sylvanas is no longer on Azeroth so Idk why she is even on the list.
    Well shadowlands haven't began yet and bolvar is still the LK sky is pretty normal ingame still and scourge is in bolvars control.

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