What was BFA’s target audience?

[SkagenRora]

Yes indeed. There's nothing wrong turning the game into a job, if you enjoy it.
But turning it into a job is a choice you make, as you're making above. That's fine. It's your call.

But it's also your call to jump off the hamster wheel if you don't enjoy it anymore.

I enjoy having a raid spot, Having a raid spot requires certain things.. So you can't stop doing those things just because you don't enjoy them, because then you lose the raid spot.. the thing you enjoy.

[Frolo Bobbins]

I enjoy having a raid spot, Having a raid spot requires certain things.. So you can't stop doing those things just because you don't enjoy them, because then you lose the raid spot.. the thing you enjoy.

Yeah, so you enjoy having a job in a videogame. That's cool. If you're into that sort of thing.
Different strokes for different folks - but as long as you enjoy it, it's fine. The minute you start crying in the forums of "being forced to have this second job", you should really evaluate your life choices.

[valax]

Mount farmers obviously

[SkagenRora]

Yeah, so you enjoy having a job in a videogame. That's cool. If you're into that sort of thing.
Different strokes for different folks - but as long as you enjoy it, it's fine. The minute you start crying in the forums of "being forced to have this second job", you should really evaluate your life choices.

I don't think you understand, or rather i don't think you can understand. I will stop trying to explain it to you. Have a good day.

[Kaver]

Beta testers?

But Blizzard don’t eveb listen to the free feedback of beta testers. So many people anticipated the problems with Azerite gear but Blizzard still chose to ignore it.

[Theosis]

I agree completely this expansion was very grindy. The story wasn't very fun either. The next expansion looks much better for casuals like myself. I hope they remember the less casual as well though. its nice to have something for everybody.

[Daedius]

People with a compulsion disorder to collect everything, both factions, like me!

[Frolo Bobbins]

I don't think you understand, or rather i don't think you can understand. I will stop trying to explain it to you. Have a good day.

I understand more than well. I've been part of progression guilds. You'll understand as well once the "job" part actually beings to overshadow the "fun" part. But until then - up and at it

[Frozenbro]

Can we change this thread title to crying echo chamber, cause thats what it is.

[Outer Heaven]

There is no logic in a childish insult, Its just you spewing toxic shit because your argument failed.

Its ok to be wrong and admit when you are, that is called being a adult.

No there is no logic in saying "because you insulted someone, you lose the argument".

If I say "the sky is blue" and you say "in my opinion it is green" and I call you a retard for it, that doesn't make me lose the argument. Facts don't change just because someone is being rude.

[Pheraz]

Actually the Warfront elite sets are awesome if you play a night elf human orc or undead

I agree that the tier sets are utter garbage xD

For casuals like me it’s actually quite a good expansion
I don’tcare if my alts have a crap necklace or essences

[Biggles Worth]

Expansion is too grindy for casuals (has been improved a little bit though).

Essence system makes it terrible for alts.

“Required” content like IEs were far too mundane for hardcore players.

Lack of tier sets was bad for xmog.

Gearing progression is screwed up. You get a lot of pieces all at once and then it can take forever to get an upgrade. BIS is essentially dead.

Seriously, BFA’s target audience may very well be people who like to make spreadsheets or run endless sims on raid bots.

BFA target audience: Clingers

[Outer Heaven]

If you feel obligated to play a game then your relationship with that said game is probably unhealthy. Perhaps you should consider leaving WOW and playing games that do not feel like work?

What does that even mean, obligated to play the game? I wanna play the game. The issue is that the new stuff isn't fun to do. It's not fun to do the raid every week just so I can gather my items until I finally have enough together after weeks to upgrade my essence. It's not fun to have to do rep with Mechagon on every character just to get the essence I want. It's certainly not fun to do rep to max just to get the upgraded essences on every character. It's not a matter of feeling obligated to do it, but a matter of wanting to get it, but hating the activity associated with it because Blizzard is incapable of creating compelling content around it, and can only create repetitive, uninspired tasks to absorb the player's time. That's all it is. It's just something that is designed to waste the player's time. And people like you whiteknighting for Blizzard because you love Blizzard so much is not a good thing. Grow up.

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Are you comparing actual power increasing things with purely visual cosmetics?

Love the irony of you telling people to use their brain. Quality.

Essences increase your power. Done with this thread now, you're clearly all incapable of having a discussion.

[clownpenisfart]

Seriously, BFA’s target audience may very well be people who like to make spreadsheets or run endless sims on raid bots.

yeah its what happens when hardcore pve nerds take charge

[McNeil]

Collectors are probably having a blast, I don't really see who else this game could be targeted for. The raiding scene seems to be dying, they haven't done much for PvP, there is to much boring repetitive world content. It feels like people still play out of habit.

[clownpenisfart]

galaxy brain ion: "if we time gate everything people will be forced to keep playing until they get the stuff they want"
people: *cancel sub*
ion: "damn, it turns out they had another choice"

[Beatman]

BFA target audience: Clingers

True. Admittedly, I am one of them.

[mvaliz]

Fans of the PVP aspect of an outdated RTS game.

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All the people playing it instead of crying on forums?

Clearly wasn't a good target audience focus choice from what we have gathered about the population drops due to BfA

[Heffladin]

People who buy race changes every time an allied race comes out, pre-orders the most expensive version of shadowlands, and likely buys all those store mounts.

[Asrialol]

What does that even mean, obligated to play the game? I wanna play the game. The issue is that the new stuff isn't fun to do. It's not fun to do the raid every week just so I can gather my items until I finally have enough together after weeks to upgrade my essence. It's not fun to have to do rep with Mechagon on every character just to get the essence I want. It's certainly not fun to do rep to max just to get the upgraded essences on every character. It's not a matter of feeling obligated to do it, but a matter of wanting to get it, but hating the activity associated with it because Blizzard is incapable of creating compelling content around it, and can only create repetitive, uninspired tasks to absorb the player's time. That's all it is. It's just something that is designed to waste the player's time. And people like you whiteknighting for Blizzard because you love Blizzard so much is not a good thing. Grow up.

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Essences increase your power. Done with this thread now, you're clearly all incapable of having a discussion.

Rank 4 doesn't. Try again. Imagine if everyone left a thread when they're completely wrong, would actually be a breath of fresh air!