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She dominated Saurfang and Bolvar in each fight. She one shot Saurfang with her shadow magic and she utterly dominated Bolvar. The guy couldn't do anything against her.
Now some people will claim that she is not a Mary Sue, because her new powers are explained to originate from the Jailer, since when he grows in power, so does Sylvanas.
But that only proves that she is a Mary Sue. Mary Sue's always have justifications for their powers. It's just something the writers pull out of their ass.
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2019-12-31, 07:35 PM #1Banned
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Sylvanas is a Mary Sue
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2019-12-31, 07:36 PM #2I am Murloc!
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Um WTF is a Mary Sue?
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2019-12-31, 07:38 PM #3Bloodsail Admiral
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overpowered character because “reasons”. Mary sue actually is a common thing for alotta chars. Remember Rey from Star Wars?
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2019-12-31, 07:38 PM #4Epic!
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Move the cursor to the bar at the top of your screen, type it in and find out.
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2019-12-31, 07:39 PM #5Warchief
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Google knows all. Originally Posted by gaymer77
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2019-12-31, 07:43 PM #6The Insane
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Yes we know
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2019-12-31, 07:45 PM #7I am Murloc!
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She has a weakness though: Overconfidence.
All she had to do was to keep her big mouth shut & zap Saurfang without a word and boom! You still have the Horde!
(Mary Sue / Marty Stu is attributed to a completely perfect & flawless character)They always told me I would miss my family... but I never miss from close range.
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2019-12-31, 07:46 PM #8Over 9000!
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In modern days or on this forum it's basically code for "Female character I don't like and because they were not brutally killed they are totally a Mary Sue." Originally Posted by gaymer77
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2019-12-31, 07:48 PM #9Over 9000!
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As little as I like her, she isn't really a Mary Sue...she isn't perfect at everything and she didn't even get her power till after she sold out everyone. Originally Posted by Valkarra
Mary Sue's don't have any justification...that is why they're Mary Sue's...because they just are perfect, everyone loves them, and they exist for the sake of existing.
Like it has been said, Rey is a Mary Sue...because she just suddenly existed and had this immense power and mastery she needed no training or skills for. Sylvanas wasn't born with this power nor did she just get complete mastery over night...she developed and as as more died she was probably given more power.
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2019-12-31, 07:53 PM #10Legendary!
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She's a Mary Sue because she beat up an old Orc with a deathwish and a Lich King that existed just for the sake of existing and has never done anything?
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2019-12-31, 07:53 PM #11Titan
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No, Sylvanas is more akin to a Villain Sue who gains new powers as the plot demands and is never allowed to actually suffer from any setback because the writers keep conjuring new goals and plans for her out of thin air so she doesn't lose.
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2019-12-31, 07:54 PM #12Scarab Lord
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That's not overconfidence though. Overconfidence was when she went off to fight Malfurion alone in the woods and ended up rooted and getting her ass kicked. Originally Posted by Justpassing
In this instance, a better description of her reactions would be to call her overly emotional or even emotionally unstable.
It wasn't her confidence that caused her to snap after he hit her, it was her inability to control her emotions.
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2019-12-31, 07:57 PM #13The Lightbringer
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The thing isn't necessarily that Mary sues have no flaws - it's that their flaws don't matter. Sylvanas having her head stuffed so far up her own ass she can see daylight doesn't make her a flawed character, because that flaw means nothing in terms of her achieving what she wants to achieve and obtaining what she wants to obtain. Originally Posted by Justpassing
Cheerful lack of self-preservation
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2019-12-31, 07:58 PM #14Warchief
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Except Rey is a Palpatine. She inherited power from her grandfather, the Emperor. Originally Posted by Kithelle
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2019-12-31, 07:58 PM #15I am Murloc!
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Call it being bipolar or being a jackass, it was a real stupid move. If she hadn't snapped it woulda been game over, man. Game over! Originally Posted by Thetruth1400
They always told me I would miss my family... but I never miss from close range.
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2019-12-31, 08:00 PM #16Old God
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This guy/girl gets it. She wasn't as Sue-ish back in the early days, but since Cata onwards she's been consistently written as a bona fide Villain Sue, with a couple of strokes of Anti-Sue (especially on her invariably getting away with murder, despite being depicted as a drooling moron, and the "enemy of all living things" bits). Originally Posted by Jastall
Originally Posted by trimble
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2019-12-31, 08:00 PM #17Grunt
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And water is wet OP.
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2019-12-31, 08:01 PM #18Banned
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Like I said Originally Posted by Tommi
The term Mary Sue comes from fan fiction. Originally Posted by Valkarra
Imagine someone writing a Star Wars fan fiction story and writing their character to be the child of Palpatine.
That is the raw definition of a Mary Sue.
Like in WoW people who roleplay will write their back story as being the "illegitimate child of Arthas" or something.
It's just a cheap justification for power or greatness that isn't earned.
It is the essence of a Mary Sue.
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Sounds like Luke with Boobs. Desert child who had no training yet was able to do enough force to get by. Then becomes very powerful with very little training (few days with Yoda. While Rey had weeks with Luke and more with other force trained people.) Originally Posted by Kithelle
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2019-12-31, 08:02 PM #20I am Murloc!
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Mary Sue originates from a Star Trek parody sketch. Originally Posted by Valkarra
They always told me I would miss my family... but I never miss from close range.
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