Back to Legion Afflication we go

[xblubbx]

Good changes. It would be reasonable to balance SB around single target and DS around multi target cause SB in a multi target situation doesn't make sense at all.

[derpkitteh]

now give back the healing.

and the purple explosion thing from the artifact trait.

[asil]

Since when is being immortal a problem? Lol. Warlocks have been broken and immortal since it's inception in Classic. Look at the current dueling tournament. Warlocks are at the top. This class design was created to be an immortal tank but do to dmg in a slow way and ramp up. That's the design.

Warlocks have not been "immortal" for most of the history of wow. It's been squishy as fuck for most xpacs and very vulnerable to cleaves.

[Inci]

aff has been sucking since WoD and the removal of snapshoting imo

I couldn't have said it any better, thank you.

[lockedout]

Soul swap, instant shadowfury and no shard cost for seed.

[Zeusy]

please just give affliction back cata model. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Nefarious Tea]

It took them a full expansion to listen to everyone saying that SB > drain.

Also "everyone" lulz. I bet it tomorrow they remove Shadow Bolt in favor of Drain full time, you'd have torrents of tears here, so probably having both around is the best choice after all.

I much prefer shadowbolt with an inevitable demise trait or two for life drain over drain soul. Channeled spell filler just feels super clunky in a game where you have to constantly move to avoid mechanics

[lockedout]

I much prefer shadowbolt with an inevitable demise trait or two for life drain over drain soul. Channeled spell filler just feels super clunky in a game where you have to constantly move to avoid mechanics

Remember when we could cast WHILE moving, we also had an instant spammable spell. Either would be great.

[Rainyhealz]

Remember when we could cast WHILE moving, we also had an instant spammable spell. Either would be great.

Fel flame was the most beautiful thing ever. Totem Killer

[Zeusy]

Fel flame was the most beautiful thing ever. Totem Killer

totem killer and dot refresher while you cant cast. god i love cata affliction!!!!!

[Rainyhealz]

totem killer and dot refresher while you cant cast. god i love cata affliction!!!!!

Yes dot refresh!

[demonicpanda]

aff has been sucking since WoD and the removal of snapshoting imo

Not just snapshotting. Haste breakpoints, pandemic being an us only thing. Drain soul execute.

Specs just changed so much it lost ALL of its charm. =[

[WraithKingOstarion]

i played Afflic from beginning of legion up through middle of tomb of sarg and it was a blast. i miss -that- incarnation of afflic.

[valky94]

i played Afflic from beginning of legion up through middle of tomb of sarg and it was a blast. i miss -that- incarnation of afflic.

the problem with aff in legion was that it was the best at everything, and that just shouldnt work with pure DPS classes, you shouldnt have one spec be better than the other specs in 95% of the content

[asil]

I much prefer shadowbolt with an inevitable demise trait or two for life drain over drain soul. Channeled spell filler just feels super clunky in a game where you have to constantly move to avoid mechanics

Literally the opposite of this is true. Drain is far easier and less clunky on movement lol. There's a reason the vast majority of high end raiders preferred drain soul. It's just better to play with.

Shadow bolt doesn't even interact with the spec. It's just there, it doesn't do anything. You could not cast shadow bolt once and still high orange parse a fight.

[Sithalos]

A 50% buff to Drain Soul isn't going to make Affliction the best dps spec in the game. So no, it's not going back to "Legion Affliction".

[Misuteri]

the problem with aff in legion was that it was the best at everything, and that just shouldnt work with pure DPS classes, you shouldnt have one spec be better than the other specs in 95% of the content

That’s been warlock for every expansion except TBC. Then you had a world farming/PVP build in demonology. Arena build for SL/SL. Raiding build of shadow bolt 1 button rotation after T5.

Cataclysm and MOP were both pretty much cut in stone for any warlock build.

[Violetti]

A 50% buff to Drain Soul isn't going to make Affliction the best dps spec in the game. So no, it's not going back to "Legion Affliction".

it wont even make it the best warlockspec

[Dastreus]

best afflic was mop

[Violetti]

best afflic was mop

Yeah I miss asking for external dps cds, hoping for trinketprocs on opener and spamming soulswap to extend buffed dots
Oh yeah and just following an addon that tells me when to refresh my dots

the only cool part about mop aff was being far ahead of anyone else