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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    I didn't think my disgust for Donald Trump could get worse, but these last few days have proved otherwise.

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    Maybe we should have immigrants sit in front of a psychadelic spiral and chant at them:

    YOU WILL HATE COMMUNISM
    YOU WILL HATE COMMUNISM
    YOU WILL HATE COMMUNISM
    YOU WILL BUY SHIT YOU DON'T NEED
    YOU WILL HATE COMMUNISM
    I can already see a man in a red hat, calmly telling someone in a dark room as a candle circles the inside of it. "Trump has the greatest economy. Trump is the most religious evar. Trump fights against Communism. Communism is evil. There is no war in Ba Sing Se."

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    So I come back from a long forum vacation for describing one of our morally bankrupt in a short essay, to find derpkitteh wanting to turn our southern border into a war zone, and Trump wanting to commit international war crimes by bombing Islamic heritage sights. Just a big oof all around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    So I come back from a long forum vacation for describing one of our morally bankrupt in a short essay, to find derpkitteh wanting to turn our southern border into a war zone, and Trump wanting to commit international war crimes by bombing Islamic heritage sights. Just a big oof all around.
    Don't forget threatening Iraq if they don't pay for our bases as they kick us out of their country

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    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    i don't think there should be a border wall. i've always been worried about what it'd do the animal migration/travel, like jaguars making their way back into the northern americas and such. ultimately, a wall is effective at reducing the amount of people crossing an area, this is objective fact. nobody says it would be 100% effective and it's the most dishonest shit to pretend that's what everyone means.

    but guns, mines, drones, i support that kind of "wall" very much. attempt to cross the border, get blown to pieces. if you do, it's your own fault, because you knew the risk. make it a lethal mistake, and you'll deter all but the most determined of criminals, and at that point, it'd just be removing the most negative elements from both US and mexican society, a net benefit to both our countries.
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    How are the jaguars going to avoid mines? Do you think before you speak? Do you live at a border state?

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    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    our immigration system should basically be a long process of immersion and basically indoctrination into respect for the constitution, respect for individualism(american individualism, that is to say, always being a nationalist patriot, but still an individual in all other ways), and dislike of any foreign and anti-american form of thought like communism.
    If you want a NK style system, you are free to leave.

  5. #32345
    So Trump is going to commit several dozen war crimes and then make us become a hostile occupying force in Iraq against the wishes of its own government?

    I was already disgusted with republicans for allowing this to get this far. I don't think I can have a lower opinion of them at this point or anyone who continues to support Trump after this past week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blur4stuff View Post
    So Trump is going to commit several dozen war crimes and then make us become a hostile occupying force in Iraq against the wishes of its own government?

    I was already disgusted with republicans for allowing this to get this far. I don't think I can have a lower opinion of them at this point or anyone who continues to support Trump after this past week.
    Just imagine if we had warhawk Hillary. We'd already be into World War 5.4.3.b

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxx79 View Post
    You cannot indoctrinate people into individualism, that’s an oxymoron.

    And which culture should we indoctrinate people into? There’s a vast difference in culture between NYC and LA and Kansas City and Stillwater Oklahoma, and unincorporated Wyoming. It’s what makes America great and successful: Diversity of thought.

    Also the founders would vomit at your plan.

    Also good luck forcing respect for the constitution when the freaking president, let alone many Americans (and yes I’m going to say BoTh SiDeS here) don't actually respect it.

    It all comes down to this: who’s version of America should we force?
    The version that will get te stamp of approval by the S@@RM F@nT readers but then again, I don't think they consider people that aren't white as citizens regardless even if they are native Americans

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    I didn't think my disgust for Donald Trump could get worse, but these last few days have proved otherwise.

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    Maybe we should have immigrants sit in front of a psychadelic spiral and chant at them:

    YOU WILL HATE COMMUNISM
    YOU WILL HATE COMMUNISM
    YOU WILL HATE COMMUNISM
    YOU WILL BUY SHIT YOU DON'T NEED
    YOU WILL HATE COMMUNISM
    Do it the ol' Conehead way:



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    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    yes, we should bomb the US soil of the border to protect it.
    This is by far the most American policy proposal ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blur4stuff View Post
    So Trump is going to commit several dozen war crimes and then make us become a hostile occupying force in Iraq against the wishes of its own government?
    Oh, no. No no no no no, no.

    Against the wishes of its government and also ours. Plus I'm modestly sure the troops themselves don't want to be there.

    Also: we've been talking about how Trump assassinated an Iranian general without even notifying Congress he was committing an act of war. Well, turns out, he has an answer for that. He tweeted.

    No, really.

    These Media Posts will serve as notification to the United States Congress that should Iran strike any U.S. person or target, the United States will quickly & fully strike back, & perhaps in a disproportionate manner. Such legal notice is not required, but is given nevertheless!
    At this point, any Senator or Representative who has ever said/will ever say "I don't read Twitter" or "I don't have to respond to/agree with Trump's tweets" has had that argument summarily dismissed. Trump just claimed his Twitter feed was official notifications of law. That means all of them.

    I recommend the indicated tweet be bookmarked for future reference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    At this point, any Senator or Representative who has ever said/will ever say "I don't read Twitter" or "I don't have to respond to/agree with Trump's tweets" has had that argument summarily dismissed. Trump just claimed his Twitter feed was official notifications of law. That means all of them.

    I recommend the indicated tweet be bookmarked for future reference.
    But you don't get it! Twitter is for jokes and triggering the libs and not about official presidential doings. I can't wait for all of the mental gymnastics that will need to be done when it comes to this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Oh, no. No no no no no, no.

    Against the wishes of its government and also ours. Plus I'm modestly sure the troops themselves don't want to be there.

    Also: we've been talking about how Trump assassinated an Iranian general without even notifying Congress he was committing an act of war. Well, turns out, he has an answer for that. He tweeted.

    No, really.



    At this point, any Senator or Representative who has ever said/will ever say "I don't read Twitter" or "I don't have to respond to/agree with Trump's tweets" has had that argument summarily dismissed. Trump just claimed his Twitter feed was official notifications of law. That means all of them.

    I recommend the indicated tweet be bookmarked for future reference.
    So that means that by now Trump should have gotten exactly #ofPolitiansInCongress + #ofPolitiansInHouse - #ofPolitiansInCongress&HouseWhoHadAlreadyFollowedHim of new twitter followers, because clearly, they are not allowed to miss another tweet anymore in case he sends another "notification".

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    House (also) to take up resolution to limit Trump's ability to go to war in Iran. Now, as @Skroe posted, the chance of the US actually declaring war is kind of low, what this resolution won't prevent is Trump taking actions that provoke Iran into attacking our interests. Such as drone strikes. Which he apparently likes more than Obama. Oh, you didn't forget that, did you? Trump's actually been more involved in the Middle East, both in troop count and drone strikes, than Obama was. Trump lied.

    Related: Trump tweets that Iran will "never" have a nuclear weapon. If only there was some way to do so without war crimes or acts of terror. A deal, perhaps one negotiated with other countries. The EU, or maybe even Russia to show Iran we really want a peaceful solution. Man, it'd be such a tragedy if such a deal was unilaterally ended, huh? Oh, and as recently posted, that's the direct official line of communication.

    NAFTA 1.0.0.2 isn't signed, Phase One isn't signed, both are minor changes at best, and the EU is set to respond to more Trump tariffs.

    DOW is down for the year -- low bar I admit -- and GDP forecast at 2.3% for Q4 would make 2019 about the same.

    Related, Chapter 12 bankruptcies, also known as "Old MacDonald needs a bailout, E I I.O.U." are up 24% in 2019 as farmers wait on yet another socialist bailout for the person who directly promised he'd directly help them. He lied.

    And, just adding insult to injury at this point, Trump's favorite team and favorite player fucking choked on a Titanic dick over the weekend, meaning Brady might be invited to the White House because he's unemployed and needs a job.

  14. #32354
    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    Just imagine if we had warhawk Hillary. We'd already be into World War 5.4.3.b
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  15. #32355
    https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/l...6332f645d2524b

    And the Chief of Staff for the Defense Secretary has resigned, leaving at the end of the month. Perfect timing for that too, right in the middle of the biggest international conflict of Trump's presidency.

  16. #32356
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/l...6332f645d2524b

    And the Chief of Staff for the Defense Secretary has resigned, leaving at the end of the month. Perfect timing for that too, right in the middle of the biggest international conflict of Trump's presidency.
    i'm sure those are completely unrelated events.

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    One thing out of this shit show; know Trump is worth at least 80 million (not counting debt obviously)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/l...6332f645d2524b
    And the Chief of Staff for the Defense Secretary has resigned, leaving at the end of the month. Perfect timing for that too, right in the middle of the biggest international conflict of Trump's presidency.
    Pretty sure that most of the command structure would ahve resigned en masse if they didn't feel the need to mitigate the president's idiocy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    Usual impeachment guff aside
    I love how this reads. "We have so many other important things to worry about, like that Iran thing I just started!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    I love how this reads. "We have so many other important things to worry about, like that Iran thing I just started!"
    The one thing Trump's war doesn't have: A direct attack on American soil. 9/11 kind of mobilized people to support a war because of the US being directly attacked. Years later we realized it was all folly and not worth it, but that's what anger does. It makes you do things you just shouldn't have while thinking it was a good idea at the time. But as to the original point, Trump isn't going to save his presidency with war, not unless we have a very harsh attack on American soil. While Trump's base will eat it up, the center and the left will both see it as another war instigated by the warmonger Trump.
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