Iranian General Sulemain and others reported killed in Baghdad airstrike

[Adam Jensen]

huh...so Pentagon confirms that both Erbil and Al-Asad Airbase were hit with ballistic missiles fired by Iran.
And now Camp Taji...?

When I was in Kuwait, I sent a lot of military folks to those bases.

That was two years ago though.

[PACOX]

I feel sorry for the soldiers dragged into this. Especially those trying to get a job after service. Technically it's what they signed up for but few asked for this, certainly didn't have a say.

I feel sorry for all the civilians on both sides who will be affected due to decisions out of their control.

This is something we knew might happen but no one wanted to acknowledge. Damn.

[kaelleria]

I feel sorry for the soldiers dragged into this. Especially those trying to get a job after service. Technically it's what they signed up for but few asked for this, certainly didn't have a say.

I feel sorry for all the civilians on both sides who will be affected due to decisions out of their control.

This is something we knew might happen but no one wanted to acknowledge. Damn.

No one signs up for an egotistical fuckwit to lie themselves into a war.

[jonnysensible]

Bah I don't use social media! >:/

https://twitter.com/Conflicts - is always pretty swift with news
https://twitter.com/Joyce_Karam - is pretty good
https://twitter.com/Mustafa_salimb - and this lad was literally at the embassy at the start of all this

[Revi]

I feel sorry for the soldiers dragged into this. Especially those trying to get a job after service. Technically it's what they signed up for but few asked for this, certainly didn't have a say.

I feel sorry for all the civilians on both sides who will be affected due to decisions out of their control.

This is something we knew might happen but no one wanted to acknowledge. Damn.

Imagine signing up because you thought you were going to protect your country or make the world a better place, and now you get to risk your life for this shit.

[Xeones]

I'm hearing that these ballistic missiles are a much bigger deal than the rockets fired by Iranian proxy militias.

Yea they are actual missiles. Not shoulder launchers.

[Thekri]

I'm hearing that these ballistic missiles are a much bigger deal than the rockets fired by Iranian proxy militias.

I posted the pictures of both in the other thread. Ballistic missiles are a bigger deal then the rockets fired by militias in the same way that a Boeing 747 is a bigger deal then a paper airplane folded by a pre-schooler.

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Yea they are actual missiles. Not shoulder launchers.

107mm aren't shoulder fired either. They are the same rockets the soviets built for those Katuyusha rocket trucks in WWII, these days they are mostly fired by leaning them against rocks or sandbags pointing in the general direction of the base. Then they hook them up to an egg timer or something so they can leave before the rockets fire.

[Wyrt]

I'm hearing that these ballistic missiles are a much bigger deal than the rockets fired by Iranian proxy militias.

Iraqi militias*

Calling them Iranian is just propaganda. They're Iraqi militias, made up of Iraqis and are an officially sanctioned part of the Iraqi government through the PMF. They even receive military ranks and salaries from the Iraqi government.

Unless you're going to tell me that Iraq is just an Iranian puppet state, but that would be a lie.

[Dadwen]

Iraqi causalities.

I see why Iraq wanted us to gtfo.

really sucks if they had causalities but a lot of this could have been nipped in the butt if they had better protection from their own rouge militia bombing their own bases because US contractors and trainers where in there (K1 base deaths), and provided better protection of the embassy which gave trump Sulemain in his cross hairs a 2nd time.
*Not sure it's true, was just something I read in this tread but they Iraq regular army around the embassy basically stood aside when the militia came to attack it.

[Dacien]

And now the Iranian Air Force is out. We definitely need to cool our jets, let them avenge Soleimani. At this point I think it was a good call to strike at Soleimani based on what we know, but if this leads to a protracted war I'm not so sure.

[PACOX]

I'm hearing that these ballistic missiles are a much bigger deal than the rockets fired by Iranian proxy militias.

Its definitely not a small attack because they know what's coming after.

The US response is going to be hard and swift.

Why this response though? Because it's damn near suicide. Makes me wonder if they have some sort of play they are betting on because the attack is even dumber than what Trump did.

[jonnysensible]

I posted the pictures of both in the other thread. Ballistic missiles are a bigger deal then the rockets fired by militias in the same way that a Boeing 747 is a bigger deal then a paper airplane folded by a pre-schooler.

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107mm aren't shoulder fired either. They are the same rockets the soviets built for those Katuyusha rocket trucks in WWII, these days they are mostly fired by leaning them against rocks or sandbags pointing in the general direction of the base. Then they hook them up to an egg timer or something so they can leave before the rockets fire.

Heres a video from the aftermath of the kind of missiles that will have been used :

https://twitter.com/vvanwilgenburg/s...11523815366656

[Dacien]

Unless you're going to tell me that Iraq is just an Iranian puppet state, but that would be a lie.

Having proxy militias in another country =/= operating a puppet government.

[Thekri]

Heres a video from the aftermath of the kind of missiles that will have been used :

https://twitter.com/vvanwilgenburg/s...11523815366656

Yeah, that looks about right for a 500kg warhead. Our 1000lb bombs look about the same for crater size and overall damage.

[Puupi]

107mm aren't shoulder fired either. They are the same rockets the soviets built for those Katuyusha rocket trucks in WWII, these days they are mostly fired by leaning them against rocks or sandbags pointing in the general direction of the base. Then they hook them up to an egg timer or something so they can leave before the rockets fire.

Sounds sophisticated.

[PACOX]

Iraqi militias*

Calling them Iranian is just propaganda. They're Iraqi militias, made up of Iraqis and are an officially sanctioned part of the Iraqi government through the PMF. They even receive military ranks and salaries from the Iraqi government.

Unless you're going to tell me that Iraq is just an Iranian puppet state, but that would be a lie.

I thought I read for a trusted news source that Iran took credit? Might have to go back and read it again.

[Wyrt]

Having proxy militias in another country =/= operating a puppet government.

Did you not read what I just wrote? They're Iraqi militias sanctioned by the Iraqi government.

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I thought I read for a trusted news source that Iran took credit? Might have to go back and read it again.

For the base attack going on right now? Yes, they did.

For the base attack last week? No, they did not.

[Dacien]

I posted the pictures of both in the other thread. Ballistic missiles are a bigger deal then the rockets fired by militias in the same way that a Boeing 747 is a bigger deal then a paper airplane folded by a pre-schooler.

I'd like to see these pictures. What other thread?

[Belize]

Iran won't retaliate, they said.

This is what deterrence looks like, they said.

[Xeones]

And now the Iranian Air Force is out. We definitely need to cool our jets, let them avenge Soleimani. At this point I think it was a good call to strike at Soleimani based on what we know, but if this leads to a protracted war I'm not so sure.

You think it was a good idea to carry out an act of war for no reason we have been made aware of?

This was literally Trump starting a war because he doesn't think he will win in November and wants 4 more years before he goes to jail.