Telemarketers and those street sign dancers. I have some sympathy for those who can't easily get another job but I would rather go live with my parents than do any of those.
Telemarketers and those street sign dancers. I have some sympathy for those who can't easily get another job but I would rather go live with my parents than do any of those.
The wise wolf who's pride is her wisdom isn't so sharp as drunk.
Beggars. As a former homeless person, I can't comprehend why anyone in that situation would waste their precious time begging instead of trying to get their life together. Aside from that, any job that brings some sort of value to society is fine by me. People need to understand that in order to EARN money, one needs to do something VALUABLE.
Also, I agree with Puupi. Actors bring value, but it tends to be the playwrights that bring the real value (if their works contain any intellectual/spiritual/etc. value that is). However, the amount of value actors bring to society is roughly the same as the value of prostitutes so they should really be treated the same in my book rather than idealized or even worshiped as they are today.
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Fair enough, perhaps sex workers are indeed treated too harshly today and throughout history. What I'm saying is closer to "actors shouldn't be idealized" than "both actors and sex workers should be treated like shit". Both jobs bring some value to society so both are better than begging. That being said, it doesn't take a lot to be a sex worker. Even acting requires more education. So while I agree that neither profession should be treated like shit per say, I still think they should both be regarded at the lower end of society.. something akin to a garbage collector.
Again, how about we understand that professions exist because there is a social demand for them and don't embrace a pseudo-caste system because you think you are better than the people that empty your bins?
Also, doesn't take a lot to be a sex worker? Being a sex worker is functionally the equivalent of any freelance or gig job in terms of self-employment. And being self-employed is by no means 'easy'. But hey, because it's primarily a female profession engaging in an activity you find distasteful it must mean it's objectively a 'lower ranked' profession, right?
Y'all are talking a lot of shit about garbage collectors for people that like to call cities in developing countries 'dumps'.
Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
Any sort of job where your entire job is just moving money around and screwing over people to make a buck. So bankers, wallstreet types etc.
It's about compensating professions according to the value they bring to society.
For example:
A neurosurgeon or your stereotypical "rocket scientist" would have to go through intensive training before they are proficient enough at what they do to perform their job at a satisfactory level.
Meanwhile, a garbage collector or a prostitute can wake up one day and think to themselves "I want to be a garbage collector or a prostitute" and become one that same day or that same week if they are lazy.
Since it takes a lot more to become one of the first 2 professions than it does to become one of the 2nd pair, I believe that the first 2 professions should come with more compensation and prestige than the ones in the 2nd example.
Same goes for actors. Yes it takes a lot more education to become an actor than it does to become a "waste disposal engineer" or w/e you'd like to call it, but at the end of the day the supply for actors is a lot greater than the demand and most of those who "make it" are determined more by their connections or their willingness to do "anything" for it, than by their talent or education. I can tell you for a fact that there are a LOT more talented actors out there than there are people actually making money from that profession.
Again, I'm not suggesting that any profession should be treated like shit. In fact, I personally believe that being in the upper rungs of society is no excuse to look down on anyone. But that has nothing to do with the fact that some professions bring more value and require more commitment than others and I'm simply advocating for those professions to be compensated and respected accordingly.
I'm starting to see IT guy as a less cool job. It just seems to attract uncool people.
They're basically email and network janitors. When we do need a significant upgrade or expansion, we call in outside vendors anyways.
Our guy spends too much time trying to convince people his job is hardcore computer science. Or that he is going to retire early ... soon as he cashes in all his bitcoins.
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You do not get to make that decision.
Literally, how is what you're describing any different from people that work in the FIRE sectors? If there is demand for a profession, that means society finds it valuable, period. Nor is the level of compensation for a profession indicative of the worth of that profession or that individual - I can guarantee you we would miss our garbage collectors a lot more than our rocket scientists.For example:
A neurosurgeon or your stereotypical "rocket scientist" would have to go through intensive training before they are proficient enough at what they do to perform their job at a satisfactory level.
Meanwhile, a garbage collector or a prostitute can wake up one day and think to themselves "I want to be a garbage collector or a prostitute" and become one that same day or that same week if they are lazy.
Since it takes a lot more to become one of the first 2 professions than it does to become one of the 2nd pair, I believe that the first 2 professions should come with more compensation and prestige than the ones in the 2nd example.
Same goes for actors. Yes it takes a lot more education to become an actor than it does to become a "waste disposal engineer" or w/e you'd like to call it, but at the end of the day the supply for actors is a lot greater than the demand and most of those who "make it" are determined more by their connections or their willingness to do "anything" for it, than by their talent or education. I can tell you for a fact that there are a LOT more talented actors out there than there are people actually making money from that profession.
Again, I'm not suggesting that any profession should be treated like shit. In fact, I personally believe that being in the upper rungs of society is no excuse to look down on anyone. But that has nothing to do with the fact that some professions bring more value and require more commitment than others and I'm simply advocating for those professions to be compensated and respected accordingly.
Likewise, people of your ilk look down on professions that don't provide market value despite them providing significant social or cultural value - writers, artists, and...entertainers. It's a tired rehash of Aristotelian nonsense about social class, and it continues to be a loathsome and shallow way of looking at the world.
Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
"influencer" ugh...
I had fun once, it was terrible.
I can't remember ever seeing or hearing anyone (aside from edgy teenagers) crap on specific occupations...
But then I don't live in the US. Here a full-time job is just that, and if you can get paid it's likely because society needs you or wants your services somehow.
Although being an "Influencer" is racking up a pretty damned bad rap with all the idiots claiming to be one but instead they're just unemployed...
I love this comment.
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Executioner for lethal injection. That would freakin blow.
My job software engineering, when girls ask what I do and I say that I can litteraly see the conflict going on in there head between "omfg neeerd" and $$$$$$.
The last hang man in the UK has a book he did I think that goes indepth on how he dealt with it.
https://www.worldofbooks.com/en-gb/b...hoC3t0QAvD_BwE
He owned a pub near me after the death penelty was scraped
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Garbage men are very well paid in the UK from What I here.
My dad always used to tell me "if you don't do well in school, you will end up a bin man" my mum now jokes I'd probly have been alright doing that haha
cop, soldier, bailiff stuff like that