2020 Election If you had to vote right now for U.S President who would you pick?

[Blur4stuff]

Biden certainly has a lot of experience, but I can't get past some of his colossal judgment errors like the Iraq war. He's made more than a few blunders during his career. If anything, like Hillary, he's shown he can't look at a difficult situation and make the right call. Yes, I trust him to do the right thing a hell of a lot more than Trump, but I'm convinced Biden will depress voter turnout.

As for attacks against Sanders regarding socialism, that doesn't matter one bit. They attacked Obama constantly with labels like socialist, marxist, and communist. And Obama is practically a conservative democrat. Trump voters don't understand what any of those things are, but they'll scream them no matter who the nominee is.

The number one concern should be which nominee will most motivate turnout on the left and convince more people in the middle to vote. Sanders is easily #1 here. Hell, Yang would be better for this than either Biden, Buttigieg, and possibly even Warren. Picking another centrist/conservative dem for 2020 will just as big of a mistake as it was for 2016.

[Xeones]

Hoping it's Warren. Bernies health worries me.

[Elegiac]

Hoping it's Warren. Bernies health worries me.

At least he isn't making silly comments about picking a Republican running mate, however.

[Xeones]

At least he isn't making silly comments about picking a Republican running mate, however.

Wait what? Is Warren doing that? I haven't paid much attention to the primary lately.

[Elegiac]

Wait what? Is Warren doing that? I haven't paid much attention to the primary lately.

No, Biden. He seems to think this is the 90s still.

[Orbitus]

Yeah unfortunately to become President you have to have a big personality. I like Yang, but I don’t see him winning his party. It will probably be Biden/Warren/Sanders and in that case I will go for Trump.

You were going to go for Trump no matter who. Your posting history kinda proves that.

[shadowmouse]

Sanders with AoC as VP.

Yang would be an excuse to rev up the Yellow Peril talk and call it fair game because of Trump/Russia.
Warren is vulnerable because of the Democrats having tried hard to land the "First Female President" ticket.
Buttigieg would get targeted with "Look, Butt is right there in his name".
Biden would be seen as an also ran -- good but not good enough to win -- and he has already been tarred with the Ukraine/Hunter fallout.

On his own, I don't see Bernie able to make it, but AoC seems to hold up to Trump in a brawl and balances Bernie's age.

[Dontrike]

Should have been a "Not Trump" option as at this point it doesn't matter to me who is the dem candidate as I would vote for some wet drywall at this point to get that orange buffoon out of office. I just chose Biden as it doesn't matter to me who it is and none of the dems stick out to me more than any other one.

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You don't support Trump because you don't like his policy positions overall.

Now just list his policies and which ones have actually been a success, until then anyone smart won't support Trump because of his constant failures.

[Orbitus]

Sanders with AoC as VP.

Yang would be an excuse to rev up the Yellow Peril talk and call it fair game because of Trump/Russia.
Warren is vulnerable because of the Democrats having tried hard to land the "First Female President" ticket.
Buttigieg would get targeted with "Look, Butt is right there in his name".
Biden would be seen as an also ran -- good but not good enough to win -- and he has already been tarred with the Ukraine/Hunter fallout.

On his own, I don't see Bernie able to make it, but AoC seems to hold up to Trump in a brawl and balances Bernie's age.

I don't think AOC can legally run as a VP, I could be wrong, but I think even as a running mate you have to follow the rules to run for President.

What is Yellow Peril talk when it comes to Yang? Is it because he is Asian? I don't get it.
Warren is better than Trump, easily.
If morons are childish enough to say they won't vote for him because he has butt in his name, then they shouldn't be allowed to vote ever again.
And if people are still with the bullshit Ukraine/Hunter conspiracy theory when it comes to Biden, then they are retarded.

I want Sanders, even voted for him in 2016, but when the general election came around, I wasn't stupid enough to vote for Trump after Sanders lost the primary.

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Should have been a "Not Trump" option as at this point it doesn't matter to me who is the dem candidate as I would vote for some wet drywall at this point to get that orange buffoon out of office. I just chose Biden as it doesn't matter to me who it is and none of the dems stick out to me more than any other one.

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Now just list his policies and which ones have actually been a success, until then anyone smart won't support Trump because of his constant failures.

Same, I would vote for a Pet Rock, before I would ever vote for Trump or any Republican that is trying to emulate Trump at this point.

[Cerilis]

I obviously can't vote in the US, and I also have no clue what the candidates really are about... but I'd vote Warren simply because someone I don't like doesnt like her. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Adam Jensen]

Bernie > Warren > Yang > Buttigieg > Biden > my sister's Abyssinian cat > a stale chicken nugget > the planet Venus > a sample of water from Flint Michigan > the remains of Steve Jobs > a random sperm sample from a sperm bank > Donald Trump

[Wyrt]

If Sanders gets the nomination I promise you Alt-Right Trumpsters are going to go after him as a raving lunatic and socialist, which is the way they are trying to position him now.

Does that really matter though? Alt-reich claims all democrats are socialist. They were screeching that Clinton was socialist ffs.

[Adam Jensen]

You realize that almost everything a president does is policy. Every time Trump has made any decision then that's a part of his policy.

Then Trump's policy === whatever stupid impulse he settles on

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Does that really matter though? Alt-reich claims all democrats are socialist. They were screeching that Clinton was socialist ffs.

Right?

Who cares what the Alt Right claim? These morons call anyone left of the Nazis socialist, then claim the Nazis are socialist. They claim Obama was socialist. Right now, "Socialist", "Communist", etc, are meaningless insults bandied about by ignorant morons who stripped the words of any useful meaning.

[Orbitus]

Does that really matter though? Alt-reich claims all democrats are socialist. They were screeching that Clinton was socialist ffs.

Yep, they have already claimed that Biden is a socialist, even though he is a "moderate", just like Hillary Clinton.

[Cerilis]

Bernie > Warren > Yang > Buttigieg > Biden > my sister's Abyssinian cat > a stale chicken nugget > the planet Venus > a sample of water from Flint Michigan > the remains of Steve Jobs > a random sperm sample from a sperm bank > Donald Trump

*gasp* You mean to say there is still a chance you'd vote for Trump?! Outrageous!

[Ihavewaffles]

Op on pupose? didn't add tulsi gabbard, mods plz close this useless biased thread...

[Machismo]

Nah it is about policy. You support Joe Biden because you think he has the best policies and positions overall. You don't support Trump because you don't like his policy positions overall. So stop saying this is about the individual candidates and not policy.

You are literallly telling other people what they are thinking.

[muto]

Warren would be my first choice; Sanders is my secondary choice since I don't much care for Mayo Pete's sliminess or Biden's everything.

But, vote blue no matter who. I'd vote for Mickey Mouse if they put him on the Democratic ticket this year.

Well Pocahontas might be on it so you’ll still have your Disney character.

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I agree with this 100% but the problem is Biden is still the most qualified. Trump literally has nothing over him.


If Sanders gets the nomination I promise you Alt-Right Trumpsters are going to go after him as a raving lunatic and socialist, which is the way they are trying to position him now.

He is a socialist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWW2eQ_ga0g

[Orbitus]

Op on pupose? didn't add tulsi gabbard, mods plz close this useless biased thread...

She has a snowball's chance in hell in winning. And as you can see, he added an "other" option that you can write in. Are you going to complain that someone like Cory Booker, Tom Steyer, or Michael Bloomberg aren't on the poll as well? Since they are all polling higher than Tulsi is? Or even Amy Klobochaur? Are you going to complain about that as well?

Tulsi Gabbard isn't even popular in her home seat, let alone the polling. She is only being propped up by Russian bots and right wing trolls.

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Well Pocahontas might be on it so you’ll still have your Disney character.

And this post right here shows how much of a Trump supporter you are.

[Mihalik]

I agree with this 100% but the problem is Biden is still the most qualified. Trump literally has nothing over him.


If Sanders gets the nomination I promise you Alt-Right Trumpsters are going to go after him as a raving lunatic and socialist, which is the way they are trying to position him now.

The thing is. Sander's is so up front about his positions that it's neigh impossible to actually effectively attack him with shit like "He's a socialist."

Unlike essentially every single other politician with socialist leanings always tried to somehow talk his/her way out of it (tho let's be honest, American politics haven't seen a politician with socialist leanings since FDR+Eisenhower).

You shout socialist at Bernie he just goes -Yes. I am. So what? Now lemme talk (shout at you) about how socialism will fix your healthcare. This is the power of owning up to something. But, see, he is a raving shouty lunatic! -Yes, because I am very passionate about my positions, now shut up and let me talk about how I will fix your healthcare.

This is an incredibly powerful position to argue from. This combined with the simple fact that 5 years of opposition research on Sanders hasn't produced a single thing to attack him with beyond the "He's a socialist and a civil rights activist." Well thank you, that's public record since the 70's, anything new?

The guy literally hasn't changed positions on anything in 50 years...it just took us 50 years to catch up to him.