Megexit - Meghan Markle and Harry to step back from the royal family :(

[josykay]

It's Endus. Literally every discussion with him leads to an -ism. Then you'll waste your time trying to explain why it's not, which only reinforces it in his mind.

The dude will tie himself up in knots searching for a reason to pull out an -ism, too. Look at his justification on this one. People in a thread that's about Markle and not about Middleton, talking about Markle and not Middleton. Simple enough, but since you criticized Markle and not Middleton, that's proof that you're racist. Somehow. Sure.

(Also, I'm pretty sure his entire core premise is wrong anyway. Markle isn't actually all that wealthy, and Middleton was worth more before marrying into the family, last I was aware.)

I don't know why anyone engages the guy.

Kate Middleton's "Net worth" seemingly is around 7-10 million, while Meghan Markle is estimated at around 5 million. Wealthier, sure, but still both are rather wealthy. Also, it should be noted, that most of Kate's worth comes from her parents buisnesses. While for Meghan everything comes from herself. While she had some, well lets say more lucky living conditions, her father was also was also bad at keeping his finances in check until he went bankrupt.

[markos82]

https://people.com/royals/prince-har...-royal-family/
I bet despite what they're saying, the Queen and other members of the royal family have something to do with this. They're becoming financially independent instead and seen as ex senior royal members. :/ Can we have nothing??? seriously?!

Considering old "cow" is still holding her grip top the throne and that Queen ( and that means future king ) doesn't really have any influence in political system ( as far as i read ) then acting like it impacts anyone that they wanna have a normal life and that Monarchy is losing something is stupid.

[Kallisto]

Would they win a lawsuit over property they obtained on the backs of serfs? It's all stolen goods, the UK does have forfeiture laws. I can see why you are confused.

You'd have the prove it was illegally taken or stolen. Which is impossible. Since there was no theft involved.

[Trassk]

Looks like the Queen is basically on board.

BBC headline: "Queen agrees 'transition' for Harry and Meghan"
The Sun headline: "AND THEY'RE OFF Prince Harry and Meghan Markle REJECT Queen’s plea to stay full-time – and Megxit could be done in days"

What absolute wank The Sun continues to be. It amazes me anyone reads it.

Just don't ever follow what the sun or express says about weather forecasts, it's as genuine and reliable as anything else they publish

[josykay]

Just don't ever follow what the sun or express says about weather forecasts, it's as genuine and reliable as anything else they publish

Yeah, but, I know that there might be miss information... or something getting less. But somehow Sun wrote the complete opposite. How do those tabloids work? Have they any source, are they just like people who bet on sport results... do they just write what they want regardless?
I mean... Fox interprets things maybe a bit off and biased. But even they can not write a headline, that is just the opposite of actually happening.

[The Butt Witch]

Hey, Di-exit ended in an..."accident".
Hopefully an..."accident" won't happen to Meghan. Maybe she gets chased off by paparazzi into a secluded area. Maybe something happens in that secluded area. Maybe we never find out exactly what happened there.

[Trassk]

Yeah, but, I know that there might be miss information... or something getting less. But somehow Sun wrote the complete opposite. How do those tabloids work? Have they any source, are they just like people who bet on sport results... do they just write what they want regardless?
I mean... Fox interprets things maybe a bit off and biased. But even they can not write a headline, that is just the opposite of actually happening.

It's like what fox does, only far more exaggerated.

[Year2020]

Meghan Markle and Harry to step back from the royal family

That what happens when Hollywood stars enter royal families. Lowly people become royal members.

[TheramoreIsTheBomb]

https://people.com/royals/queen-eliz...le-royal-exit/
ahahahahahahha! Meghan is that BITCHH!!
We love a true Queen. Start your own royal family in Canada like Beyonce and Jay Z and the Obamas and the Clintons did.

[PACOX]

Really don't care all the gossip and scandal that the TMZs and CNNs prey on but good Harry and Megan - they escaped the bullshit and can at least write their own path. Everyone knows they were treated differently and neither one of them seemed happy with the lifestyle.

I'm happy for anyone who can escape from 'what's expected of them' for what makes them happy, be it someone who for goes a bigger check to spend more time one themselves/family to those who renounce royalty to be happy.

Good for them.

[XangXu]

It’s ironic because the moderators of this forum have demonstrated how they feel about kings and royalty quite clearly.

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[Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang]

The nonsense about Meghan Markle is actually fairly simple to understand.

The problem is that Harry married a societal (not aristocratic) peer, rather than an borderline-incestuous near-relative already part of the aristocracy, or the newly-acceptable version of marrying an attractive white peasant girl who had basically nothing and thus could just be happy being elevated into her new position and subsume herself into that role.

Meghan Markle was both independently wealthy and professionally successful, and she was internationally recognizable as a celebrity. She is, by any analysis but aristocratic heritage, a peer of Harry; they are both famous, and wealthy. She gains very little in marrying him, and certainly isn't going to let herself be defined by that marriage, as Kate was.

She's also, like, not white. That's a big issue for a lot of people, apparently.

It's straight-up racism and sexism. That's about it. She doesn't bow and scrape to tradition because she's strong enough she doesn't need to, and that's "bad" somehow.

Come to Canada, you two. We've got anti-paparazzi laws and we don't give two shits that she's not an aristo.

Harry and Meghan were peers on a very superficial level, as in frequenting similar socialite circles, and you are seriously downplaying the wealth, fame and status difference between the two : the making of a classical fairy-tale which entranced both her and the american public.

BTW : aristocrats falling for actresses, dancers and the local queen of beauty is a common enough story.

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She likely has more money than Harry does. She was already rich when they met. Even if she were a gold-digger, moving away from England like this is the last thing she'd want to do, because she's having to give all that up.

Nothing about the circumstances supports this sexist bullshit. Those tabloids are muckrakers who make shit up to sell papers; you shouldn't be giving anything they say any credence.



Struggling to see how this is anything but racism.

She didn't have a title, but you can literally buy those. And she had the money, if she wanted to. Other than a title, she was more professionally successful than Harry, likely had more personal wealth than Harry. She's at a comparable level to his.

And since the argument would have applied to a much greater degree with Kate, and you're not mouthing off about her, it makes it clear this isn't about social class at all. Which is what brings us back to the only remaining "hierarchy" possibility; racism.

Err.. Meghan Markle is reportedly worth 5M$, while Harry has about 40M$ from his mother's inheritance.
She was earning 40k an episode last I read, so 640k a year for a 16 episode season, while Harry's necessary expenses in the millions per year are covered by the Duchy of Cornwalls estate (his father's money, before it becomes William's, but then he would have been supported by the Crown directly I assume).

To begin with, she wasn't a world celebrity like some divas and actresses of old were, and while her income was in the upper middle-class range, zipping around in private jets, casually stopping at palaces, collecting a M$ wardrobe and fancying 10M$+ residences were way above her means, or any financial peer she could have met.

You'd be seriously surprised at how quickly money can be burned by a lifestyle... and Harry is still the bigger World Celebrity, and has been for far longer, and even with all his antics, he is still part of his family, while she is mostly estranged with hers (for the relish of popular media).

... and what are purchased titles worth anyway? Maybe if you want to parade in America, and even then it has most likely been out of fashion for a while, in Europe they mean zilch, and au contraire will make you a bit ridiculous.

[ranzino]

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... and what are purchased titles worth anyway? Maybe if you want to parade in America, and even then it has most likely been out of fashion for a while, in Europe they mean zilch, and au contraire will make you a bit ridiculous.

in USA she is Rachel Meghan Mountbatten-Windsor only; she waived her brit citizenship approach by moving out of UK and she is not entitled to bear a title of nobility as US citizen. Harry is entitled to royal adress, but not his wife; sucks to be a commoner

for titles in europe: abolished in Austria, part of name in Germany and in UK or Belgium you can still be elevated to fancy titles. for example belgian astronauts (ok, there are only 2 of them ) were made viscounts and solving Fermat's Theorem yielded knighthood for Andrew Wiles in UK.

[Martymark]

Now he's just a jobless ginger loser with no friends or family.

How long until she divorces him for someone "better"?

[Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang]

in USA she is Rachel Meghan Mountbatten-Windsor only; she waived her brit citizenship approach by moving out of UK and she is not entitled to bear a title of nobility as US citizen. Harry is entitled to royal adress, but not his wife; sucks to be a commoner

for titles in europe: abolished in Austria, part of name in Germany and in UK or Belgium you can still be elevated to fancy titles. for example belgian astronauts (ok, there are only 2 of them ) were made viscounts and solving Fermat's Theorem yielded knighthood for Andrew Wiles in UK.

Similar here in Switzerland, titles were mostly abolished, while "de" or "von" became generalized to patricians in some cities. Funny things is that for centuries nobility could bar you from some positions in certain places. There's a good number of people of people carrying "de" and "von", but the few who retain a proper title (ex: Count), gained them from a foreign sovereign.

But titles are still quite important as social and status markers in Germanic Europe : Dr., Prof., PhD, etc...