Republican Muslim refugee Dalia al-Aqidi announces she’s running against Ilhan Omar

[Machismo]

If it looks like a duck, and walks like a duck, and bangs on about Israel all the time...

She keeps complaining that sanctions are just bad for the innocent people and demanding an end to Iran sanctions... whilst, without irony, simultaneously being one of Americas most vocal BDS advocates. That says everything.

Well, considering one is supporting capitalism, and the other is opposing it... I'd say you don't really have any point at all.

[Azadina]

"Uncle Tom." - is that the word I'm looking for here?

Some jews used to support and help the Nazi party back in Nazi-Germany too. Didn't work out so well for them in the end.

That or "Useful Idiot"

Someone who is too much of an idiot to understand that they are only being used in short term because it's convenient. Not actually accepted as one of whomever they are pandering to, because they are still despised the same as before, and will be discarded as such the moment their usefulness has run it's course.

The minority of jews pandering to nazis is a great example of what happens when pandering to people who hate you, especially if they gain power such as nazis did.

[Themius]

This seems correct. You'll see the same sort of reasoning among the proverbial woke - criticizing "whiteness" is good and justified because whiteness is problematic, criticizing black culture is bad and racist because people of color are oppressed. If you're a GOPer that's a sincere believer in "Israel GOOD" as just a brute fact about the world, you might have trouble imagining any motivation for criticizing Israel other than rank anti-Semitism.

A lot of misunderstandings stem from people assuming that their interlocutors share their axioms.

This idea of black culture is silly firstly since there are many cultures and on this form criticism of black culture becomes criticism of gang members in specific areas and scary rap music and not much more.

[Dacien]

"Identity politics is bad! Now vote for our candidate because she's a Muslim refugee woman who will stand up for Israel!"

When was the last time Republicans had a shred of self-awareness?

Not enough diversity in the GOP!

*Muslim runs*

Hypocrites for having diversity!

In the same vein, the left lambasts the GOP for being "too white", not enough people of color, yet when a black guy runs he gets called an Uncle Tom.

[Draco-Onis]

Not enough diversity in the GOP!

*Muslim runs*

Hypocrites for having diversity!

In the same vein, the left lambasts the GOP for being "too white", not enough people of color, yet when a black guy runs he gets called an Uncle Tom.

Might help if the GOP changed their policies of hate towards those groups then it would be part of an outreach until then they will be called Uncle Tom.

[Wyrt]

If it looks like a duck, and walks like a duck, and bangs on about Israel all the time...

She keeps complaining that sanctions are just bad for the innocent people and demanding an end to Iran sanctions... whilst, without irony, simultaneously being one of Americas most vocal BDS advocates. That says everything.

So, Trump continually talking about Iran and China means he's racist? Just trying to figure out why criticism of some nations is racist, while criticism of other nations is not.

[Fabolouss]

I wonder how it would go if you didn't see the face or even the party people were with and just had issues talked about and how they would deal with them. Not just a political bias, we just voted on the issues and how "person x,y,z" has a stance on those issues

I feel many people would be switching sides both ways without even realizing it lol

[JohnBrown1917]

I wonder how it would go if you didn't see the face or even the party people were with and just had issues talked about and how they would deal with them. Not just a political bias, we just voted on the issues and how "person x,y,z" has a stance on those issues

I feel many people would be switching sides both ways without even realizing it lol

If people held far right believes, they would already be voting for the GoP.

[Zaydin]

The Blaze is a right wing rag I believe.

It's Glenn Becks rag to be precise.

[Malaky]

That or "Useful Idiot"

Someone who is too much of an idiot to understand that they are only being used in short term because it's convenient. Not actually accepted as one of whomever they are pandering to, because they are still despised the same as before, and will be discarded as such the moment their usefulness has run it's course.

Isn't this pretty much a textbook definition of what happens on the left when one of their own disagrees with their doctrine?
Immediately thrown under the bus?

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Not enough diversity in the GOP!

*Muslim runs*

Hypocrites for having diversity!

In the same vein, the left lambasts the GOP for being "too white", not enough people of color, yet when a black guy runs he gets called an Uncle Tom.

Pretty much. Hipocrisy and convenience runs deep in the party.

[Kaleredar]

Not enough diversity in the GOP!

*Muslim runs*

Hypocrites for having diversity!

In the same vein, the left lambasts the GOP for being "too white", not enough people of color, yet when a black guy runs he gets called an Uncle Tom.

Isn't this pretty much a textbook definition of what happens on the left when one of their own disagrees with their doctrine?
Immediately thrown under the bus?

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Pretty much. Hipocrisy and convenience runs deep in the party.

I dunno, the guy that Trump called, and I directly quote, "my African American," left the republican party on his own volition.

People don't accuse the republican party of being racist simply because they don't have non-white people in them. They call them racist because of the racist things they do, racist things they say (see above!) and the racist people they court.

Is your understanding of criticisms of the your party that fundamentally lacking? I know the republican party was never one to be introspective, but... yeesh.



As for minority people opting to be part of the Republican party, well... people of any demographic can be short-sighted and mistakenly believe the republican party still stands for anything resembling an economic or moral position. Any sane person would realize that the blank-check tax payer funded government projects and ballooning deficits helmed by a thrice-married, prostitute-fucking, draft dodging trustfund baby all whole-heartedly condoned by the Republican party means all of those things went out the window long ago.

[Malaky]

People don't accuse the republican party of being racist simply because they don't have non-white people in them. They call them racist because of the racist things they do, racist things they say (see above!) and the racist people they court.

As opposed to the racist thing they do, the racist things they say, and the racist people the dems court?

As for minority people opting to be part of the Republican party, well... people of any demographic can be short-sighted and mistakenly believe the republican party still stands for anything resembling an economic or moral position.

Have you considered the possibility that maybe the reason they're joining the party is neither short-sightedness nor mistaken belief but actual, valid reasons and that the republican party does stand for valid economic and moral positions?

In other words, do you accept the possibility that it's not them being wrong... but you?

[Zython]

She's going to get crushed in the primary.

[Azadina]

Isn't this pretty much a textbook definition of what happens on the left when one of their own disagrees with their doctrine?
Immediately thrown under the bus?

Such as? Yes, far right pretenders and bullshitters who claim to have been part are indeed "thrown under a bus".

[Zython]

Have you considered the possibility that maybe the reason they're joining the party is neither short-sightedness nor mistaken belief but actual, valid reasons and that the republican party does stand for valid economic and moral positions?

In other words, do you accept the possibility that it's not them being wrong... but you?

Hmmm...no, I'm pretty sure the ones murdering Jews, Muslims, Hispanics, black people, and poor people are the ones who are wrong.

Speaking of which, what's the over-under on her claiming Omar is in the pocket of Jewish bankers?

[Malaky]

Such as? Yes, far right pretenders and bullshitters who claim to have been part are indeed "thrown under a bus".

Aaaaaah, I see.
Leftists never leave the party for any reason, if they do they were just right-wing pretenders in disguise.

Jesus, listen to yourself.

[Kiri]

Not enough diversity in the GOP!

*Muslim runs*

Hypocrites for having diversity!

In the same vein, the left lambasts the GOP for being "too white", not enough people of color, yet when a black guy runs he gets called an Uncle Tom.

That misses the mark, though.
The hypocrisy in that post was not about this person being part of the GOP in any way. It was about her being propped up as a "Muslim" challenger first and foremost. If you look at her coverage, that is what even right wing media focuses on - the very kind that tends to decry identity politics. Just look at how the other contenders are described in the article from the OP. "Businessman", "activist", etc. They get their job titles as codifiers. But what is the first thing it tells us about al-Aqidi? That she is a Muslim refugee. It's what they focus on, what they want you to know about her. That is using her religious/ethnic background not just to sell her, but also to make a point. Hence the hypocrisy allegation. It's not about a Muslim running. It is about how that Muslim running is being treated.
If it was just happening and the media was just business as usual, it would be dandy, as it should be. But since there is coverage focusing on her background - and even threads created here, which we haven't seen many of for Omar's other challengers - yeah, I can see why people would call it out.

[Azadina]

Aaaaaah, I see.
Leftists never leave the party for any reason, if they do they were just right-wing pretenders in disguise.

Jesus, listen to yourself.

You gave no other worthwhile context, so I filled in the blanks with the most likely one.

[Draco-Onis]

Aaaaaah, I see.
Leftists never leave the party for any reason, if they do they were just right-wing pretenders in disguise.

Jesus, listen to yourself.

People leave the left all the time but usually go independent because simply the republican party is just way too far on the opposite side of the spectrum for it to be appealing. The people that make the switch do so openly usually con men who are trying to milk the right wing because it feeds the narrative they desperately want. The old GOP switching made sense family values, conservative spending, small government, free market solutions to environmental problems, immigration reform. the GOP of today represented by a porn star banging three times married man who is running the biggest deficit in history while talking about destroying the environment and how vaccines are horrible is a bridge too far for a switch to be believable.

[Malaky]

People leave the left all the time but usually go independent because simply the republican party is just way too far on the opposite side of the spectrum for it to be appealing. The people that make the switch do so openly usually con men who are trying to milk the right wing because it feeds the narrative they desperately want. The old GOP switching made sense family values, conservative spending, small government, free market solutions to environmental problems, immigration reform. the GOP of today represented by a porn star banging three times married man who is running the biggest deficit in history while talking about destroying the environment and how vaccines are horrible is a bridge too far for a switch to be believable.

I'm just gonna sit back and read in silence the notion that nowaday nobody on the left would legitimately switch to the right, and that everyone who does are just "no true scotsmen" or people trying to milk it.
Okay.