Could Mogu, Lightforged Undead & Saberon be the final allied races?

[yogdadoolin]

You know, i would like to have back real races, with unique arts, starting area, a real questing region and lore. And you even got those without having to grind your ass of in dull none repetetive world quests.

Blizzard nowadays sells reskins for even more effort.

[Biske]

I like the idea of Mogu working with Zandalari again and alongside Pandaren, so I'd like them to be Horde or for both factions.

[ChairmanKaga]

I think for the same reasons Nightborne went Horde, the Mogu would as well (they are essentially proto Horde).

I think the Mogu going Alliance would make sense considering the Gnomes/Dwarf shared origins as Titan creations.

[cptaylor38]

I was hoping for more allied races later on, like the patch we get before 9.0 or whatever. But that's not happening.

I was honestly expecting Vyrkul to be a playable race at some point, but it doesn't seem that's in the works despite them having what seems like newer models from what I've noticed in Wrath.

I don't see them ever adding Saberon, because I'm not even sure how they would tie them into the lore as their main time to shine was in Draenor and we got a Warlord's race with Mag'har.

Mogu are a possibility, but we still rarely see Mogu females which seems like part of the reason Ogres have never became playable.

In general though, I highly doubt we will get more allied races until maybe a late patch in Shadowlands after the Jailer has been dealt with and we're having to return to Azeroth for some reason.

[Kathranis]

IMO Saberon are kind of a nothing race. They're on par with gnolls and kobolds in terms of culture and history. If they and the botani were brought to Azeroth for a reason, it's probably to be enemies in a revamped Barrens. Maybe for a Warfront that never came to be.

Light-raised undead are boring visually if Calia is anything to go by -- just humans with grey skin and glowing eyes. Undead elves might be more elves, but they're infinitely more interesting and more deeply embedded in the lore. Technically there have always been Forsaken elves.

Rajani mogu are a solid fit for the Horde, I think. Though, the draenei skeleton is a bit bland. Personally I think they could make playable, flesh-cursed Rajani mogu using the worgen rig.

Mok'nathal also feels like something the Horde deserves to get, especially if you've seen the unmasked Rexxar model. But they're not really involved in any ongoing stories and Rexxar was pretty minor in BFA, all told. Do hope they make it in eventually.

Ankoan are an easy pick for Alliance, though I don't think they'd light the world on fire. Maybe with some cool customization options they'd be able to fill the "draconic" race archetype that's always been missing from WoW, even though they're technically amphibious fish people.

Nothing else really stands out as an allied race option, frankly, and the racial customization overhauls coming in Shadowlands might make some of the other viable options obsolete. Hopefully they include stuff like Broken face options for draenei, Dark Ranger skin and eye colors for blood elves, etc.

[Mozu]

Oh yeah, I know. Vulpera are just furry Goblins.

Exactly. That's what happens when you use the same model for both.

This is completely dumb. Blood Elves and Night Elves were swapped. If Alliance got forsaken then Horde would get Worgen. Alliance got garbage asspull elementalized allied races and you are complaining that they got void elves?


I doubt Alliance would get light forged undead as they already were given a lightforged race.

No, alliance got the exact blood elf model (you know, one of the most popular in the entire game) just recolored. Horde got an amalgamation night elf that has worse cast animations and worse running/standing animations. I'd be perfectly happy with just a recolored night elf like alliance got for blood elves.

[Yarathir]

Exactly. That's what happens when you use the same model for both.



No, alliance got the exact blood elf model (you know, one of the most popular in the entire game) just recolored. Horde got an amalgamation night elf that has worse cast animations and worse running/standing animations. I'd be perfectly happy with just a recolored night elf like alliance got for blood elves.

You mean the same skeleton. And look at the picture. That's a lot different from just hacking limbs off gnomes and then putting on mechanical ones.

They're not just furry goblins in model or story. They're their own species that uses the goblin skeleton, and even then has enough custom animations to look different from them.

[Mozu]

They're not just furry goblins in model or story. They're their own species that uses the goblin skeleton, and even then has enough custom animations to look different from them.

They move the same and their animations are close enough. Personally, story means nothing to me. It's the animations / movement I look at every time I play. They certainly are furry goblins as far as that goes.

[Yarathir]

They move the same and their animations are close enough. Personally, story means nothing to me. It's the animations / movement I look at every time I play. They certainly are furry goblins as far as that goes.

Then Zandalari are Night Elves.

[Mozu]

Then Zandalari are Night Elves.

Certainly some people feel that way. The animations / movement are different enough to me that they aren't comparable.

That being said, if I got nightborne as alliance I would also be pissed at just getting reskinned night elves.

My complaint is that horde are getting reskinned horde races. If alliance got vulpera that'd be fine since alliance don't have a comparable goblin.

[Brocksley]

I voted other because there was no “there will be no more new allied races” option. Maybe they had plans at one time, but it’s been cut. Just like a new class in shadowlands. They had to cut stuff to devote resources into savaging bfa.

[Yarathir]

Certainly some people feel that way. The animations / movement are different enough to me that they aren't comparable.

That being said, if I got nightborne as alliance I would also be pissed at just getting reskinned night elves.

My complaint is that horde are getting reskinned horde races. If alliance got vulpera that'd be fine since alliance don't have a comparable goblin.

But don't you want Lightbound Forsaken to be Horde?

[qwerty123456]

Exactly. That's what happens when you use the same model for both.



No, alliance got the exact blood elf model (you know, one of the most popular in the entire game) just recolored. Horde got an amalgamation night elf that has worse cast animations and worse running/standing animations. I'd be perfectly happy with just a recolored night elf like alliance got for blood elves.

I like my Nightborne a thousand times more than my Void Elf, Lightforged, Niight Elves, and High Mountain. Its almost like people have different tastes. And the majority of people who wanted another playable elf on Alliance wanted High Elves which the Void Elves certainly are not. And I guess you also missed the hundreds of threads here and on the official forums that were upset because they look nothing like Alleria (the character the whole race is based off of) and instead got a bunch of purple hand and feet knock offs with Tentacle porn hair.

And I don't think you understand models and skeletons and stuff. The only race that had a completely new one was the Kul Tirans and Blizzard said they wanted a big fat one for future races (Aka Ogres/Mok'nathal). They literally changed the lore of an entire people just so the Horde could get a race they wanted in the future. Every single Horde allied race has had zones built around them and were thought out. Every Alliance race is just an elementalized version of an existing race who mostly don't even exist until the last patch or two from the expansion they are from.

[Mozu]

But don't you want Lightbound Forsaken to be Horde?

No. I'd rather forsaken be left alone and they work on bringing unique allied races to both sides. Or, at the very least, start moving over races like they have been doing. Like humans->horde, orc->alliance. Pointless to just recolor and keep them on the same faction.

I like my Nightborne a thousand times more than my Void Elf, Lightforged, Niight Elves, and High Mountain. Its almost like people have different tastes. And the majority of people who wanted another playable elf on Alliance wanted High Elves which the Void Elves certainly are not. And I guess you also missed the hundreds of threads here and on the official forums that were upset because they look nothing like Alleria (the character the whole race is based off of) and instead got a bunch of purple hand and feet knock offs with Tentacle porn hair.

And I don't think you understand models and skeletons and stuff. The only race that had a completely new one was the Kul Tirans and Blizzard said they wanted a big fat one for future races (Aka Ogres/Mok'nathal). They literally changed the lore of an entire people just so the Horde could get a race they wanted in the future. Every single Horde allied race has had zones built around them and were thought out. Every Alliance race is just an elementalized version of an existing race who mostly don't even exist until the last patch or two from the expansion they are from.

None of this changes the fact that alliance got horde's most popular race cut-and-paste except blue, while horde got either horde races reused or a deformed alliance race.

[Kyphael]

For those questioning why Saberon would be so cool, surely you never watched Thunder Cats growing up.

[qwerty123456]

No. I'd rather forsaken be left alone and they work on bringing unique allied races to both sides. Or, at the very least, start moving over races like they have been doing. Like humans->horde, orc->alliance. Pointless to just recolor and keep them on the same faction.



None of this changes the fact that alliance got horde's most popular race.

So instead of actually reading it and coming up with an argument you are just going to move the goalpost... Ok

And you can't blame Blizzard for people liking them better than orcs. And there are a thousand reasons why people pick them over them. Blood Elves have pallies and are also the only DH race, they are the most human like race in the horde, etc... Humans are the most popular Alliance race which could be due to people liking humans more, racials, etc.... And considering the Humans and Orcs are the core races of the Horde and Alliance its silly to think they would give Horde Humans and the Alliance Blood Elves due to player popularity and not core vs core.

[Yarathir]

No. I'd rather forsaken be left alone and they work on bringing unique allied races to both sides. Or, at the very least, start moving over races like they have been doing. Like humans->horde, orc->alliance. Pointless to just recolor and keep them on the same faction.

Well, we can at least agree on the fact that neither of us really wants Lightforged or Lightbound Forsaken.

[Mozu]

So instead of actually reading it and coming up with an argument you are just going to move the goalpost... Ok

And you can't blame Blizzard for people liking them better than orcs. And there are a thousand reasons why people pick them over them. Blood Elves have pallies and are also the only DH race, they are the most human like race in the horde, etc... Humans are the most popular Alliance race which could be due to people liking humans more, racials, etc.... And considering the Humans and Orcs are the core races of the Horde and Alliance its silly to think they would give Horde Humans and the Alliance Blood Elves due to player popularity and not core vs core.

Even removing DH and Paladins blood elves are still the most popular race on horde. They are popular because they are attractive. Suggesting otherwise is delusional.

[qwerty123456]

Even removing DH and Paladins blood elves are still the most popular race on horde. They are popular because they are attractive. Suggesting otherwise is delusional.

Do you have proof of that?? And considering that void elfs get void deformed skin and hair then shouldn't no one play them because they are ugly? And besides Night Elves are just barely behind Humans in popularity so stop crying that Alliance got something the Horde didn't.

[Mozu]

Do you have proof of that?? And considering that void elfs get void deformed skin and hair then shouldn't no one play them because they are ugly?

http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census...ervertypeid=-1

Blue skin doesn't stop them from being attractive.

And besides Night Elves are just barely behind Humans in popularity so stop crying that Alliance got something the Horde didn't.

I would totally agree if horde just got a recolored night elf like alliance got a recolored blood elf. But they didn't.