Mega-Thread: Democratic 2020 Primaries

[starlord]

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/...redibility-gap

how about this?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox...en-gender-bias

[Blade Wolf]

Called it.

Still lies, regardless.

[Elegiac]

Still lies, regardless.

Words are air.

Warren has actual accomplishments under her belt, namely the CFPB. Meanwhile y'all seem to be struggling to credit Bernie with a single direct legislative achievement.

[starlord]

Called it.

how many times was hillary also labeled a "manipulative liar" ? and now suddenly warren is too. how convenient for bernie bros.

[Elegiac]

how many times was hillary also labeled a "manipulative liar" ? and now suddenly warren is too. how convenient for bernie bros.

I'm honestly just tired of brocialism in general. It's so disingenuous especially considering a lot of these people were throwing their knickers at Ron Paul back when he had the monopoly on the anti-establishment lane.

[starlord]

I'm honestly just tired of brocialism in general. It's so disingenuous especially considering a lot of these people were throwing their knickers at Ron Paul back when he had the monopoly on the anti-establishment lane.

they are also perfectly happy to parrot bullshit trump talking points, as long as they think it makes bernie look good or something. like they buy into trump but don't like his non-socialism.

[Benggaul]

Bernie bro culture is not a thing, for one.

Yes, it absolutely is. You may not like it or the name of it or identify with it, but it is still a thing. Sorry.

[TheramoreIsTheBomb]

1. Democrats.com isn't the official DNC website, Democrats.org is.
2. That website hasn't been updated since December 2018, pretty safe to treat it as garbage.
3. He links to nothing, so there's no way to verify the numbers in his post.

Come on dude, for a guy that's all on the "CLINTONS KILL PEOPLE!" train you're not doing much, or apparently any, due diligence before sharing what sure looks like some intentionally misleading information from a total random.

are you with biden? hes a corporate democrat like hillary

[Edge-]

are you with biden? hes a corporate democrat like hillary

That has nothing to do with my response, which was pointing out that you shared what appears to be easily debunked misinformation.

[cubby]

Bernie bro culture is not a thing, for one.

I'm not sure how you think anyone will take you seriously when you post obvious mistruths like the above. You really, honestly, think Bernie bro culture doesn't exist?

[Elegiac]

I'm not sure how you think anyone will take you seriously when you post obvious mistruths like the above. You really, honestly, think Bernie bro culture doesn't exist?

It seems the only people who haven't had negative interactions with Bernie Bro culture are Bernie Bros. Hm...

Quite the mystery!

[DarkTZeratul]

It seems the only people who haven't had negative interactions with Bernie Bro culture are Bernie Bros. Hm...

Quite the mystery!

As Stephen Colbert put it last week, "All you have to do is look at YouTube to see how much Bernie Sanders respects women. And all you have to do is look at YouTube comments to see how much his supporters don't."

[Gestopft]

His "achievements" generally seem to trend more towards "First openly socialist member of the House" which...isn't really any sort of legislative achievement.

Actually his achievements are mostly in the form of getting amendments passed, wherein he was one of the most productive members of Congress- mostly during GoP control too.

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As Stephen Colbert put it last week, "All you have to do is look at YouTube to see how much Bernie Sanders respects women. And all you have to do is look at YouTube comments to see how much his supporters don't."

Ironically, polling indicates Sanders' support to be more diverse this time around: his supporters are more likely to be non-white than the overall Democratic voter base, and only 5-ish% more likely to be male than the Democratic voter base as a whole.

[Edge-]

Actually his achievements are mostly in the form of getting amendments passed, wherein he was one of the most productive members of Congress- mostly during GoP control too.

See, that's a better example to use. Not the garbage list that's usually passed around with things that he had nothing to do with.

[Blur4stuff]

look at youtube comments to see how much his supporters don't

I've never actually met a "bernie bro". I'm sure they exist, but I think this is a case of people getting fooled by right wing and foreign agitators.

[Orbitus]

hey hillary, go fuck yourself and go hang with your pedophile friends like jeffrey epstain

If she should hang, so should Trump.

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hillary should get investigated in her and her husband's suspicious friends being killed such as epstain and all her coporate friends like bloomberg should be investigated as well but no one will speak when they have 250,000 in their mouths and pie holes

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https://twitter.com/Giovasummer/stat...67258440503297

Oh, pushing conspiracy theories? Thanks for that.

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I'm also critical of Bernie Sanders.

You are critical of anyone that is critical of Trump, because Andrew McCarthy told you to be.

[Elegiac]

I've never actually met a "bernie bro". I'm sure they exist, but I think this is a case of people getting fooled by right wing and foreign agitators.

As someone who attended the state caucus in 2016 and was a Hillary delegate, let me tell you - they exist.

[Telogrus]

Joe Biden is now calling gamers “creeps” and “violent”

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The anti-Bernie bias on this site is astounding. Apparently he has to apologize to Warren even though she was the one lying about him and he has to apologize to Biden for his staffers calling him corrupt even though Biden is corrupt.

Amazing how you’re not allowed to call out your opponents on their bullshit if you’re Bernie Sanders, but they’re allowed to insult you as much as they want

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I'm sure that's all you Trumpkins want to believe. Are those the updated talking points approved by the GOP? At least they weren't sent to the Democrats this time....

I also love that you think age wasn't a factor with Bernie, both now and in 2016. It's adorable the levels of delusion you Trumpkins aspire.

Democrats like you are the reasons why Trump could win again in 2020. Biden’s mental health is clearly deteriorating even more than Trump’s is, and this is coming from a leftist. Stop using these disingenuous arguments

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What did she say in that quote that wasn't true? I don't dislike Bernie and supported him over her in the 2016 primaries, but the "Bernie Bro" culture she's talking about is absolutely one of the reasons he's not my top candidate this time around. And he does seem to revel in it-though I'd shy at saying he fully condones it.

Don’t see how there’s anything wrong with Sanders supporters being enthusiastic for their candidate. The media is allowed to attack Sanders, but his supporters can’t attack them back

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He's been in Congress longer than she was, so I'd fucking hope so.

But is she wrong? His actual legislative achievements, from what I can tell from a quick review, are pretty thin. He has a lot of ideas, but he hasn't been able to see them through to fruition.

So, again, is she wrong? No substantive legislative history, and even thinking back to 2016 there was hardly an outpouring of support from any liberal colleagues. He's got more Congressional support this election, and that comes in-part from the younger progressive wing of the House, who haven't/don't work with him.

She got plenty done, and screwed up plenty too. But she's not running this election, so her screwups are irrelevant.

Kinda hard to get M4A passed when even the “liberal” party is bought out by the corporations

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there's a certain undercurrent of misogyny in his followers, (who seem to be the left wing equivalent of trumpsters) and he has never done much to expel the more toxic elements of his people. for example his campaign spamming snake emojis at warren (a reference to taylor swift's spat with kanye). so, lay down with dogs, wake up with fleas.

Hate to break it to you dude, but not liking Hillary or Warren isn’t the same as not liking women. Identity politics handed Trump the 2016 election, so can we please learn our lesson?

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how many times was hillary also labeled a "manipulative liar" ? and now suddenly warren is too. how convenient for bernie bros.

Lmao this is just getting ridiculous dude. Hillary is objectively a liar, just like Trump

[starlord]

Hate to break it to you dude, but not liking Hillary or Warren isn’t the same as not liking women. Identity politics handed Trump the 2016 election, so can we please learn our lesson?

no identity politics allowed except when labeling women politicians as "snakes".

[Telogrus]

no identity politics allowed except when labeling women politicians as "snakes".

Calling Warren a snake equals calling all women snakes? Stop. Warren is being called a snake because she tried to smear Bernie as a sexist and betrayed him, not because she’s a woman.