Sure BFA is bad, but...

[baseballfan]

BFA easily has the worst class design yet. So that is enough for me to call it worse than WoD.

[Relapses]

It’s the same as a child wanting to play in yellow snow, sure you can say it’s subjective if it’s better then partially melted snow or not but I’m gonna give the kid a pitting look either way.

Man, we're only one month into 2020 and we already have a contender for shittiest analogy of the decade. WoD isn't "yellow snow," and your outright dismissal of anything remotely positive about the expansion is evidence that you don't actually want to discuss anything.

[Raven]

He literally explained what content there was to do in his post. Is your desire to hate WoD so completely overwhelming that you reject the mere possibility that there may exist human beings who enjoyed it?

I never said i hated WoD i kinda enjoyed alot of it and with BfA i found a way to play which i enjoyed and had fun, and back then i was actually one of those that said we should give it a chance and wait and see the story before we judge it, when most others was screaming about Blizzard using timetraveling as a plot.

And no he didnt literally explained what content, he mention story and you being taken on a journey and that you didnt have anything to do if you didnt raid which make it sounds like the content wasnt so great.

[Ielenia]

2. WoD's primary feature was the Garrison. No new races, no new classes, just updated player models. BFA at least introduced Allied Races each with their own Heritage armor. It also did have a simplified mission table.

For the record, I think WoD is much worse that BfA. With that said, I think I much prefer WoD's mission table than BfA's. BfA's mission table was the literal definition of "tacked-on": useless, pointless, forgettable. Legion had the best iteration of the mission tables, in my opinion, but between WoD and BfA, I much prefer WoD's. At least I had bodyguards to come along with me and greater variety of champions.

EDIT: Oh, and how could I forget those infamous BfA table missions that required you to use TWO specialists when you only had one, before 8.2?

[Relapses]

I never said i hated WoD i kinda enjoyed alot of it and with BfA i found a way to play which i enjoyed and had fun, and back then i was actually one of those that said we should give it a chance and wait and see the story before we judge it, when most others was screaming about Blizzard using timetraveling as a plot.

And no he didnt literally explained what content, he mention story and you being taken on a journey and that you didnt have anything to do if you didnt raid which make it sounds like the content wasnt so great.

If you enjoy raiding, raiding is content question mark? Is this concept so alien to you that you need it explained, now, three times?

[Amarys]

1. Only had a .1 and .2 patch, 6.1's primary features being the Twitter integration and Selfie Camera. Compare that 8.1, 8.2, 8.3. Not even close.

2. WoD's primary feature was the Garrison. No new races, no new classes, just updated player models. BFA at least introduced Allied Races each with their own Heritage armor. It also did have a simplified mission table.

3. If you didn't raid in WoD, you had nothing to do. BFA benefited from the systems added in Legion: WQs so the outdoor world was still relevant much longer. Mythic+ Dungeons vs in WoD after you did heroic dungeons and capped that ilevel, there was 0 reason to go back and do them unless you were doing Challenge Modes.

4. (Bonus) Ashran LOL

1. That's true

2. Races aren't content and there are too many classes as is. Either way, both are completely meaningless for those not looking to reroll. Also Garrison I think was a step in the right direction. It just needed more polish and some changes. BFA on the other hand ruined professions and added a ton of "e-sports" timed stuff like M+, Islands. As a player who prefers RPG elements over rushing to get gear to get better gear to get even better gear to do the exact same thing.. and then it resets, garrisons were better. I still use them 2 expansions later.

3. WoD had Ashran, Garrison stuff, professions. It did lack content in a sense that content patches took too long though.

But to compare
WoD and BFA both had a good leveling experience but WoD was slightly better I think as it provided choices and different quests for each zone so you could do it all at least 4 times and still found new story bits. Also WoD treasure was much better and actually fun as it could give you toys and useful items. BFA treasure is just vendor trash and war resources.

BFA instances are slightly better but again were designed with rushers and e-sports in mind and are missing stuff like Leeroy and Croman.

BFA raids are slightly better.

BGs and PvP in general. WoD was way better. BFA PvP is utter trash.

Other content Ashran, Garrisons, Professions VS M+, WQs, warfronts, islands. I personally preferred WoD as I prefer chill content, raiding with my guild, exploring the story, the world etc. over timed rushing some stuff with a bunch of elitists.

[javierdsv]

What is the point of deciding which expansion was worse?

I can tell my worst WoW experience was back in vanilla, and that I liked both WoD and BfA more than I liked TBC but that's like.. an opinion.

[Aresk]

WoD's zones were more interesting than BFA's. WoD's treasures were more interesting than BFA's. WoD's PvP content was better than BFA's. WoD's raids were on par with BFA's. WoD's achievements were less RNG than BFA's. WoD's missions were more interesting than BFA's. Garrison buildings were more interesting than island expeditions. WoD didn't have essences. WoD had tier sets that granted more interesting changes to gameplay than Azerite Armor. WoD wasn't afflicted with M+. About the only point BfA beats WoD is amount of released patches and warfronts.

Both are still better than Cata.

[Whitedragon]

Exactly this, content doesn't mean anything to me if my character is dull and boring.

Let's not pretend that WoD didn't also have some classes/specs that sucked and some that where rampantly OP, or that BfA doesn't have classes/specs that are fun. You can say your specific class ended up better then and worse now, but that doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Man, we're only one month into 2020 and we already have a contender for shittiest analogy of the decade. WoD isn't "yellow snow," and your outright dismissal of anything remotely positive about the expansion is evidence that you don't actually want to discuss anything.

Sure it has some positives some area’s look really good and really stand out in wow just how say yellow snow stands out in a field of white. It being visually good looking though doesn’t change what it is.

[Amarys]

Cata was the worst expansion ever... then Mists was the worst expansion ever... then WoD was the worst expansion ever... then Legion was the worst expansion ever... and now BFA is the worst expansion ever.

Cata was the worst expansion at the time. It was worse than Classic, TBC and Wrath.
MoP was horrible, it wasn't even WoW. I still think it was the worst expansion ever, worse than BFA by far.
WoD was a step in the right direction but it felt like the devs finished making it and then took a nice long vacation
Legion was almost universally liked. There were some minor complaints here and there but none of that "worst expansion ever" stuff
BFA just abandoned all the good stuff Legion had done for no reason and started doing things no one asked for or wanted. Also all the promised content like warmode, warfronts etc. just sucked and lacked any kind of polish. Most could have been good.

[FelPlague]

WOD simply lacked content, it was not shit overall by a long shot, in fact it was wildly hailed as the best expansion ever on release. BFA just fucking sucks and the consensus always was that it sucks, before it even released it was just that clear on beta that it was no good and they weren't going to have time to fix anything nor did they even care about common complaints from the playerbase.

no wod was not seen as the best expac on release, right away we had a whole week of people being unable to play so they gave everyone a free week.
and right away we noticed the world felt empty cause we were already siting afk in our garrison.

wod was seen as absolute shit months before it even came out, and stayed that way till about mid legion.

[Flower Milk]

I didn't have much to do in WoD, but at least when I did it was fun to play my class and I wasn't constantly just doing awful and boring time gated rep grinds while playing said awful class design. I quit WoD because I had run out of content, but I quit BfA because the game was just awfully designed and wasn't worth playing. That's what makes BfA worse to me, I still wanted to play WoD, I just ran out of stuff to do. I don't have any motivation to play BfA, it's just awful all around (minus the art and music).

[Cathbadh]

WoD was awesome.... On launch. Leveling was easy and fun, the new bonus objectives and rares saw to that. Garrisons were fun and interesting at first. It had some of the best instances in the game. But.... then that was the end. Garrisons were too good to ignore and we were all left in them to rot. No other real content was produced and quite a bit was revamped/cut. The end of expansion drought was absurdly long. People left and many small servers died. I honestly think if WoD had a 8.2/8.2.5 equivalent in terms of extra content, I think it would have been considered one of the better expansions.

On the other side of things, people also forget that Legion was a pretty terrible expansion on launch. Leveling was a pain with the main storyline forcing you to run back and forth through zones you had already completed. The AP grind was horribly punishing to the point that it drove people away from the game. I remember several Youtubers who I went to for guides and things just dropping the game. The AP grind and other bits of grind also lead it to be super alt unfriendly at first. Of course fairly early in the expansion they fixed a lot of these issues and it ended up being one of the best expansions.

[Wyrt]

WoD lacked content.

BfA has shit content like islands/warfronts no one gives a fuck about.

[Thetruth1400]

OP, you're definitely not wrong, but the reality is it's like comparing Dog shit to Cat shit.

At the end of the day, they're both shit, even if one is easier to deal with than the other.

[Merin]

WoD had decent content, just not nearly enough of it.

BFA has more content but it's all dog shit tier and the one of the worst iterations of any MMO I've ever seen.

When WoD was over, I was looking forward to Legion and hopefully moving onto a better experience.

When I was done with BFA, I felt like I never, ever wanted to even look at WoW again. Still feel that way, they can shove their next expansion right up their ass. I wouldn't trust this dev team to make a promotional flash game let alone a full featured MMO.

[Tyron]

I sometimes ask myself why we can't have WoD class design with patches like Isle of Thunder, Timeless Isle or Argus

[Mysterymask]

Measure of success of any xpack is simple - I played WOD, but don't play BFA.

Thats not a good measure of success for a game...

I never played Seikro but I did play Mortal Kombat vs DC so therefore MK vs DC is the better game

[czarek]

WoD was more alt friendly. As i remember i had a lot of. Since Legion i have 1 or none like atm. WoD was boring also but hm i still had things to do that they were no boring or just pain. WoD still was not good expansion. But after months I can say BfA is really bad exp mostly because of azerite system for me and heroic mode that isnt heroic anymore (ok in Legion wasnt also). I miss wotlk dungeon spam and alt accesability to endgame.