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Lol is this even a serious post? How can you be both so ignorant and delusional?
Youre acting like "horde QQ'd" there way to a completely unneeded/unnecessary change that was only made because big bad blizzard wanted to make AV favor Horde. You do realize it was FIXED because it was...broken right? One side being able to non stop full 40 man premade while the other side has absolutely zero capability to premade at all was not Vanilla so incredibly clearly a broken, unintended mechanic. It legit hurts my brain when I think about how many delusional Ally there are that cannot comprehend something as incredibly simple as that. Unless youre claiming thats actually intended and thats how Vanilla worked? Hint: Its not.
"The current AV version favors horde in so many ways it'll never be balanced unless alliance plays in premades:"
Again, legitimately blows my mind someone can be this ignorant and delusional. For one, youre seriously trying to claim that it was BALANCED with Ally being able to full premade and Horde not being able to premade at all LOL? Let me know how Ally winning 90% of AV's im under 8 minutes is "balance"? Especially considering there was virtually nothing horde could really do to combat/compete with it other than try to turtle as a PUG, the only real way to combat that would be Horde to create their own premades to fight the Ally premades...but oh wait, that was impossible. But yeah, totally balanced when one side is able to win that often, that fast and it having next to NOTHING to do actually do with skill in PvP and everything to do with coordinated 40 man groups queueing into full PUGs nonstop.
Seriously, its baffling someone has the audacity to even mention the word "balance" in the same breath as Ally purely premading their way to 90%+ <8min wins with next to no effort or skill involved.
As for the AV map being Horde favored...I have absolutely no clue where Ally all the sudden got that idea from, but its been long established that it isnt, youre arguing something that is objectively false. I mean the results of the past few months LITERALLY just disprove everything youre trying to claim about it being Horde favored, never mind the fact its been known for a long time to be Ally favored.
"All horde bases are chokepoints, easy to def"
Yeah, theyre such great choke points and easy to defend, that must be why you can just zerg right past them and win in under 10 minutes unless 95% of the horde team turtles, right? LOL. Youre seriously so clueless and its so easy to prove the garbage youre saying as wrong. Not to mention, the Ally base is 10x easier/better defended because the Horde archer towers are barely able to get damage out because of the lay out leading up to them and how theyre incredibly easy to take over and kill their archers(especially since you can literally just run through the fence on the right side and right into the the tower. The ally bridge(because ya know...bridge=automatically a strategically strong choke point) on the other hand is an incredibly strong choke point and the 1st archer tower is able to hit horde as soon as theyre around half way on the bridge, and by the time youre on the other side of it, BOTH archer towers are able to hit you. Not to mention the tons of NPCs that will aggro you when running in on top of that, which dont exist for Horde. I mean how can you have the audacity to claim such a thing when you have to go over a freakin bridge to get to the Ally base, which is an incredibly strong choke by default.
"Horde has mid control before alliance"
And the significance of that is...what again? Its pretty much irrelevant, as seen by the 40 man Ally zergs that are able to just run by any Horde who get to mid before them. The reason why Horde get to mid faster is because Ally are able to get to Drek faster, but Horde getting to mid faster really does not matter. If Ally both got to mid faster and could get to Drek faster it would make Ally zerging EVEN MORE favored and more effective than it already is.
"Backdoors available into alliance base"
Lol always love it when Ally try to claim this is some huge advantage, not to mention in Classic AV...theres a spot Ally can back door the Horde base too LOL. If it were actually such a huge advantage like people try to claim, it would actually be used and abused...except it isnt because it really isnt very good. The only way it plays a significant role is if Ally have 0 or 1 person in their base and allow a horde stealthie to go up the back door and ninja aid station...which should really NEVER happen. The backdoor is INCREDIBLY easy to defend. And even if Horde wanted to send 20+ to the back door, you realize that it would actually turn into a strong chokepoint for the alliance right? Theres one small spot you can jump up, it automatically funnels Horde through one very small path and IIRC you have to be mounted to get up it. Not to mention there are NPCs close by, the Archer tower is literally right next to it. If Horde did try to do that, literally all it would take is a few hunters putting down entrapment specced frost traps on the small "backdoor" and having some mages/locks sitting there to AoE and youd literally FARM anyone trying to get through.
Some backdoor that is! Hence why it really hasnt been used much, nor has it proven to be some huge advantage in the 15+ years people have been playing AV...I think we would have figured it out by now if it actually was a significant advantage.
"Horde stone elemental is OP compared to alliance tree"
ummm...ok? And how exactly does that matter when Ally can just straight 40 man zerg and win WAY before it can even get summoned? Like do you even seriously contemplate the things youre saying? Its laughable. Its also not so significantly better than the Alliance tree that it makes a huge difference, or that it even gets summoned enough for that to make a big difference.
"Horde population is generally way better geared and mounted thanks to P1 imbalance"
LOL were REALLY reaching now, huh? No clue where you even got this idea from but there isnt even remotely any truth to it and you wouldnt be able to produce any evidence of it being true either. There is(certainly now) and was literally no noticeable or significant difference in gear levels overall and every Ally easily had the same ability and enough time to have an epic mount that Horde did before BGs came out. My god did you really reach for the shortest straw on this one.
Youre really trying hard to cope with the fact AV isnt incredibly Ally favored anymore and you cant just practically auto win 95% of AV's in <8 minutes with little to no effort while you watch netflix. And imagine...you actually just tried to argue that was a "balanced" thing. All Blizzard did was put both sides on an even playing field before the BG begins, it in no way AT ALL makes AV super horde favored. If it feels that way because Horde are winning a lot after the change thats due to Horde simply being better in PvP/AV, but there is no inherent mechanic, or the way the BG is developed that makes it easier for Horde to win.