I dont disagree with what you are saying, but claiming a fresh 120 can be equivalently geared to a player who has invested "1000 times more" into the game in just "a couple of hours" is extremely disingenuous. You could catch up to the beginner ilvl for that tier, currently 410-420, and it will take more than 2 hours, unless you are funneling 410 boa gear from a main, and even then the cloak questline alone will take most people 2-4 hours by itself.
Additionally, essences play a massive role in the current systems, and you will NOT have those, and many of those require days / weeks of rep to unlock. Your neck will also catch up quickly, but still be well behind the player who has invested "1000 times more".
The core players investing large amounts of playtime could easily be 440-450 ilvl, leaving you 30 ilvls behind, not an insignificant gap. Because of this higher ilvl, those characters will also have access to harder content, inflating the gap even further very quickly.
Are there players oout there who have invested huge hours into their character and remain at a modest ilvl? absolutely, clearly increasing their ilvl is not a focus for them, so they really cant be used as a comparable when discussing increasing ilvl quickly. You need to compare to other players whos focus is gearing and improving their character, and those characters will far exceed yours.
I mean, you can only do it once per day, but the lower level you are, the more xp. Level 20's get like almost a whole level to half a level, level 30's get like a third, level 40's like a quarter of a level, etc. It stops being worth it around level 70 and up, but below that, doing it real quick every day will progress your toon several levels during its duration. I've leveled toons dozens of levels just with a specific holiday boss.
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You're freakin' reading my mind!
Eh, it is about what doing what you enjoy. You are not supposed to be raiding because you like a higher item level. You get the higher item lever because you like the challenge of raiding.
Sure, the next tier will wipe the floor with your item level again. But you got the experience of kicking down challenges when they were frontier content. If you like that sort of thing, then those memories stay forever.
Of course, there are other reasons to pursue it these days. I want to max out my cloak to unlock that max level cloak transmog, and the backpack, and the mount. There is the Ahead of the Curve mount and achievement you could earn.
But if all you pursue item level for it to have a higher number... then you are not playing for reasons you will enjoy for long. Pursue it if it will let you do things you enjoy. If not, why burden yourself?
I have a feeling they might make them skip-able in a future hot fix or mini patch, but even so, it's just so repetitive. Meanwhile I can enjoy past expansion stories and quests from different classes and characters' points of views at different levels, collect stuff I never did way back when with pets, armor for transmog and mounts--the replay wealth is endless.
Yes. After this patch all your shit will be worthless. Just like last time. And the time before that. And the time before that. Doubley so since this is the last content patch planned before the next expansion.
If you're not having fun then yes. Fucking pointless. If you are, then keep having fun. I do not understand how this concept is so difficult for people.
So, you're asking why you're playing a videogame, basically.
... why *are* you playing if you feel like it's a chore now?
Replacing gear, yes. But you never felt useless. We started the BFA expansion with 6k dps and most likely will end around 100k dps. That's 16 times the power we had originally and we literally doubled our damage between every content patch. If you don't grind gear lets say for 30 days after a patch release you make only half of the damage opposed to someone who did. I don't know the rest of you, but this makes me feel literally useless and i just don't care anymore. Even if i find a group for doing dungeons or raids i just want to quit after seeing the huge difference and being a burden on my team. And this repeats after every single patch.
In Vanilla in MC gear you could still compete with those in BWL gear, now you can't beat the tanks if you miss a patch these days
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Welcome to the end of an expansion? I'm guessing it's your first time.
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1.) If you have an opinion, someone will say that it is wrong
2.) If you have a source, there will be people who refuse to believe it
3.) If you use logic, it will be largely ignored
btw: Spires of Arak = Arakkoa.
...why do people on here have this weird notion that there was this huge golden era where there was THOUSANDS of MMOs that was able to compete with wow
Most of them either
Barely did a lot with gear..see City of Heroes..
Had expansions that didn't increase level cap...like Everquest
or died before this could happen...see EVERY WOW KILLER
Same reason people play anything. It's fun and rewarding to do so. If it's not, look for something where you feel immersed enough to not notice that it can be broken down into numbers.
"And all those exclamation marks, you notice? Five?
A sure sign of someone who wears his underpants on his head."
troll account? but yea.. it is, but so is everything releated to gaming. What ever game you play you will at one point stop playing and therefor be pointsless.
that counts doubble for any mmo. for it will be worthless every new expation.
I dont see it as such though, I play the game for the fun i have it, or the feeling of fullfillment when you set a goal and archive it. that not worthless
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http://youtu.be/x3ejO7Nssj8 7:20+ "Alliance remaining super power", clearly blizz favor horde too much, that they made alliance the super power
Thats why the first month and the last month of a Wow expansion are always the most active.