[EU] Brexit negotiations at a standstill

[Pann]

Last I recall the EU wasn't installing a pornography filter to ban facesitting.

Neither is the UK.

[Elegiac]

Neither is the UK.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/articl...ide-parliament

Y'all think facesitting is a sin but still insist on putting Prince Charles' face on the television.

[Pann]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/articl...ide-parliament

And? What does an article from nearly six years ago have to do with your erroneous claim?

[Elegiac]

And? What does an article from nearly six years ago have to do with your erroneous claim?

The fact it covers the exact subject under discussion?

Your illiteracy is not my problem. Nor's your country, for that matter.

#EUPride

[Pann]

The fact it covers the exact subject under discussion?

Your illiteracy is not my problem. Nor's your country, for that matter.

#EUPride

No, it doesn't. There is no filter that stops people watching facesittting in the UK. I appreciate that knowing things is not really one of your strong points but your claim that the UK is installing a filter is wrong and talking of being illiterate your article does not support your claim either in fact it directly contradicts is.

[Timester]

Because of the EU bullshit censorship and copyright stuff they are trying to do. If you clicked the link it answers your question.

Wait... "EU bullshit censorship and copyright stuff" is the reason why the UK is behind many EU countries regarding the communication infrastructures?


What?

[Xarkan]

What exactly is the EU trying to censorship?

The posting of other peoples copyrighted works without explicit permission apparantly

That is.. that is what they are trying to censor

[Zaydin]

Follow the conversation I clarified it and meant because of censorship laws

I'm pretty sure the UK has actually been one of the most aggressive European governments when it comes to attempting online censorship due to their 'Won't someone think of the children?!' pearl clutching.

[Crispin]

Follow the conversation I clarified it and meant because of censorship laws

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I am sorry if you think EU censorship is a good thing

What censorship? You'll need to be more specific than just saying random shit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intern...ance_in_Europe

Looking forward to you walking back on your silly claim that the UK "Has better internet cus censorship" nonsense, or is it time to move goalposts again?

[Masark]

What exactly is the EU trying to censorship?

Presumably the article 13 business.

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/what...ained-meme-ban

[Arrashi]

You know, i can understand why some would want to leave EU, but i really can't believe some people think that brexit will result in some kind of Economic Golden Age for Britain.

[Teleros]

I think of the UK trying to block porn.

The porn licence was scrapped at the last minute, last year I think.

hope that we will be back in the EU as soon as we can!

Never going to happen.

The UK as a whole won't, so Scotland would have to vote like so:

1. Leave the UK (meaning no more gibs from Westminster & BoJo claiming the entire North Sea right up to about 3" off the coast as UK waters).
2. Vote to join the EU (meaning adopting the Euro & paying INTO the EU budget, instead of receiving more gibs, and also all the "austerity" stuff).

Salmond lost last time despite claiming that an independent Scotland would automatically be a member of the EU (despite the EU claiming the exact opposite), so I can't see voters in Scotland doing the same when there's even more uncertainty. After all, the Scottish Nazi Party & their hardcore fans care less about independence & more about hating Westminster & the English.

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Oh, and before I forget, I know this is a few days late but what the heck...

[Mayhem]

Never going to happen.

The UK as a whole won't, so Scotland would have to vote like so:

1. Leave the UK (meaning no more gibs from Westminster & BoJo claiming the entire North Sea right up to about 3" off the coast as UK waters).
2. Vote to join the EU (meaning adopting the Euro & paying INTO the EU budget, instead of receiving more gibs, and also all the "austerity" stuff).

Salmond lost last time despite claiming that an independent Scotland would automatically be a member of the EU (despite the EU claiming the exact opposite), so I can't see voters in Scotland doing the same when there's even more uncertainty. After all, the Scottish Nazi Party & their hardcore fans care less about independence & more about hating Westminster & the English.

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Oh, and before I forget, I know this is a few days late but what the heck...

What the fudge are you even talking about?

The UK claiming the entire North Sea?
the 2nd point makes even less sense.

[Teleros]

The UK claiming the entire North Sea?

Context. Heard of it? I'm talking about another go at Scottish independence, so no, I'm not on about the bits that the Norwegians or whoever claim.

the 2nd point makes even less sense.

That's how Scotland would have to vote in order to rejoin the EU. What part of that isn't clear?

[Mayhem]

Context. Heard of it? I'm talking about another go at Scottish independence, so no, I'm not on about the bits that the Norwegians or whoever claim.

Why would the remaining UK claim anything about the north sea that would then be part of Scotland?

That's how Scotland would have to vote in order to rejoin the EU. What part of that isn't clear?

The part in brackets.

[zealo]

Unless the UK intends to dispute already established maritime law on borders of exclusive economic zones at sea, a sizeable portion of the North Sea would fall into a Scottish zone upon indepence.

[Teleros]

Why would the remaining UK claim anything about the north sea that would then be part of Scotland?

But would it?

Take this Wiki article for example. Maybe you'd prefer to go by population - in which case Scotland gets just 9% of the oil fields. Or per the same article, what of the investments by non-Scots into the field, like all the banks in London etc?

The fact that you can raise these questions at all means London could raise them in order to get the best deal for the UK in the event of Scottish independence - and arguably should raise them, as the PM in #10 Downing Street would be obliged to seek the best possible deal for the UK, and not Scotland.

The part in brackets.

1. Under EU law, new member states must adopt the Euro.
2. Scotland would be expected to pay more into the EU budget than it would get out of it.
3. The EU would likely impose stricter rules on the budget etc than the SNP would like.

Now, on point 3, sure you can argue that, but as to point #2...

1. Check out this PDF from earlier in the decade.
2. From 2017, a £1bn-a-year bill for Scotland.
3. They've been a net contributor since 2016, but that won't exactly get any easier when there's a big hole in the EU budget to plug (due to the UK leaving) & the Scots can't expect to get a rebate like the one the UK had.

Oh, and let's not forget the Spanish potentially throwing a wrench in the works. They'd probably let Scotland in, but if they also said "cough up lots of moolah" in order to discourage say Catalonia from seceding & joining like Scotland... well it wouldn't surprise me.

Point is, an independent Scotland in the EU would be financially worse off than if it remained a part of the UK.

[PC2]

Rousing speech by Johnson yesterday. Kudos to him.

[LeGin Tufnel]

Rousing speech by Johnson yesterday. Kudos to him.

Rousing? Really? It was typical Boris bluster harking back to the 19th century. Trying to sell lamb to the Kiwis. It's like global warming and veganism aren't topical.

Also, @Teleros - you forget that the Scots, eventually, will do what you Brexiteers did: they'll vote with their hearts. Scotland seceding is as inevitable as night follows day. But it's a price you were willing to pay, I guess?

[caervek]

there's a big hole in the EU budget to plug (due to the UK leaving)

£6.6 billion is a lot of money to you or I, but in perspective to an economic union of 27 countries it's not really that much (especially when you consider we're currently spending £108 billion building a 1990's train network lol).