Congress Passes Protecting the Right to Organize Act

[Stormdash]

Somewhere in McConnell's drawer, space is being made right now.

This one goes in the circular file.

[Beefhammer]

Didn't Trump hold some sort of garden party for one of their failed attempts to repeal Obamacare before they hid it in the Tax Scam?

He also tried to claim he did the USAMC agreement whe House Dems made it way better, still just NAFTA.

[Drutt]

I'm sure Mitch will immediately add this to his vertical in-tray.

[Gestopft]

I'm sure Mitch will immediately add this to his vertical in-tray.

He's probably such an asshole he'll use the green 'filing cabinet' instead of the blue one.

[Adam Jensen]

Are the GOP trying to lose in November by fucking the American Worker even further?

Seems to be working for them so far.

[callipygoustp]

A hallow gesture that will be forgotten well before the next election.

Modern American politics, ridiculous amounts of bullshit from both sides; the only difference being the depth.

[Orbitus]

I know nothing about that bill and its details but if it's sponsored by Dems it's probably shit, not because they don't care but because they are really incompetent and just patch up anything that will make them look good without truly trying to make it a decent bill that addresses all concerns. They're just clowns man.

Not surprising. You think anything by Democrats is bad, while you support the literal fucking traitor in the White House.

[Milchshake]

Not surprising. You think anything by Democrats is bad, while you support the literal fucking traitor in the White House.

Sad to see my fellow socialists poo poo the passage of this bill. Working with unions and an allied party in congress should bring hope.

I suppose it illustrates the contrast between people who want policies, versus idealogues.

[Orbitus]

What traitor? That traitor are the peeps inviting others to retaliate against the US because of Qasimi. They told Iran, hey you're right if you wanna retaliate, in fact we expect you to retaliate hard and kill Americans! They would have celebrated if that happened because that would have made Trump look bad. That's besides trying to sabotage Trump's trade deals, making negotiation harder when these trade deals could have been more favorable if the US looked unified about seeking these better deals but instead they just wanted to sabotage them as long as that can make Trump look bad.

And for this bill, this is exactly a case in point. They're there for the theatrics. Instead of putting together a bill that both parties can support and can go through they just decided to spend their time doing theatrics and nothing useful. They're clowns.

What the actual fuck are you talking about? NO ONE has said anything you fucking claim. And yes, Trump is a fucking traitor.

[Flarelaine]

Rather misleading title for the thread.

Having said that, isn't it time you guys came up with a measure to at least force votes in either house on whatever the other one passes?

[Elegiac]

Rather misleading title for the thread.

Having said that, isn't it time you guys came up with a measure to at least force votes in either house on whatever the other one passes?

The problem is that the Constitution leaves much of the specifics of legislative passage up to the rules of the two chambers, so it'd require an amendment. That said, assuming the political will was there I think there's some merit to Australia's double dissolution mechanism.

Basically, if the Senate rejects a bill from the House twice within the same legislative session (as long as there are at least three months between the first and second passage) that is the constitutional trigger for both chambers of the legislature to be dissolved and a snap election held - with the caveat that the mechanism does not trigger if it is six months or less before the next House election.

Combine that with a constitutionally mandated deadline for the Senate to review things the House passes and we might just have ourselves a functional congress. It's time for the upper house to be cut down to size.

[Flarelaine]

The problem is that the Constitution leaves much of the specifics of legislative passage up to the rules of the two chambers, so it'd require an amendment. That said, assuming the political will was there I think there's some merit to Australia's double dissolution mechanism.

Basically, if the Senate rejects a bill from the House twice within the same legislative session (as long as there are at least three months between the first and second passage) that is the constitutional trigger for both chambers of the legislature to be dissolved and a snap election held - with the caveat that the mechanism does not trigger if it is six months or less before the next House election.

Combine that with a constitutionally mandated deadline for the Senate to review things the House passes and we might just have ourselves a functional congress. It's time for the upper house to be cut down to size.

I pretty much agree.

[Milchshake]

It does.

People celebrating this are the idealogues. The people who want it as policy will only celebrate when it has become an actual policy.

lfmao

You didn't read the part where Bernie celebrate the passage of the bill"

"This is an important step to leveling the playing field for working people."
—Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)


But now Bernie is an ideologue in your eyes?

Or is supporting Bernie not even about his policies, it's just about shitting on the Dems?

[Rukh]

A hallow gesture that will be forgotten well before the next election.

Modern American politics, ridiculous amounts of bullshit from both sides; the only difference being the depth.

I don't understand this position. We clearly see Democrats are trying to pass bills to help the US population. As this thread is an example of, and we see Republicans doing everything they can to block it. Seems pretty clear this isn't "Bullshit from both sides".

End up with republican senate majority, things don't change for the better for the American people. End up with a democratic majority things do. Pretty simple.

[callipygoustp]

I don't understand this position. We clearly see Democrats are trying to pass bills to help the US population. As this thread is an example of, and we see Republicans doing everything they can to block it. Seems pretty clear this isn't "Bullshit from both sides".

End up with republican senate majority, things don't change for the better for the American people. End up with a democratic majority things do. Pretty simple.

It's ok if you don't get it.

[Rukh]

It's ok if you don't get it.

What a convincing argument! Very well thought out!

The "both sides" argument is simply lazy. It indicates a person is attempting to take pride in their ignorance of the differences between parties. Its just so much more glaring here because the evidence of how false it is, is the subject of the very thread!

[callipygoustp]

What a convincing argument! Very well thought out!

Given that my initial point was ridiculously simplistic and that you didn't "get it", yeah, not much else i could say other than : it's ok if you don't get it. I say that mainly because so many Americans also don't get it. Passing a bill that you know has no chance, absolutely no chance, of getting past the senate is in fact a hallow gesture. It's akin, imo, to the phrase "thoughts and prayers" - utter bullshit.

The "both sides" argument is simply lazy. It indicates a person is attempting to take pride in their ignorance of the differences between parties. Its just so much more glaring here because the evidence of how false it is, is the subject of the very thread!

Both sides are guilty of bullshit. As I said in my first post, one side just piles it deeper than the other. This bill, from the Dems, is an example of bullshit on their side. Not recognizing that each side pulls shady stunts like this would be ignorant. Holding each side accountable for bullshit, when they sling it, is far from being ignorant.

[Rukh]

Given that my initial point was ridiculously simplistic and that you don't "get it", yeah, not much else i could say other than : it's ok if you don't get it.

I keep giving you room to come up with an argument. I guess I had too high of expectations.

[callipygoustp]

I keep giving you room to come up with an argument. I guess I had too high of expectations.

No worries, I don't care if you dont get it.

[Orlong]

Somewhere in McConnell's drawer, space is being made right now.

Personally I think ANY bill passed by the house should be required to be voted on by the Senate (This bill would get voted down anyway so why not just let the vote happen), and ANY bill passed by the Senate should be required to be voted on by the house.

Im sure the founding fathers didnt intend for there to be a one person gatekeeper in each chamber of congress deciding if bills should be allowed to be voted on or not.

But as long as we are playing the game where Nancy doesnt let the house vote on Senate bills, we may as well let Mitch prevent the Senate from voting on all house bills too