No one lost.
Couldnt care less about Classic shenanigans between plebeians, but it aint hard to check.
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/1002
The only ones that lost are the dum dumb that think Classic has any sort of difficulty other than preparing in 2020.
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Was watching Apes GM and raid leader yesterday. Great show.
Raid leader autistically shouting: ROGUES ROGUES GO ROGUES ROGUES
DPS NUKE EXECUTE HARD EXECUTEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Im going to stand there i dont give a fuck if I kill you all
then at the end ofc insulting other guild calling them shit
Honorable mention to raid leader shouting for interrupts and 20+ people not being able to interrupt
If thats "the best" guild classic has to offer than I'm sorry but its equal to LFR, pugs on retail manage their raids better.
How can you even argue this point. Classic has literal 1 button specs and bosses are tank&spank with 1 ability per fight. Even the simplest retail spec has infinitely more complexity than any classic spec and even LFR bosses are more complex than Classic bosses. This has nothing to do with 15 years or talents. You could boot up a fresh classic style raid onto retail servers and any serious mythic guild (not just Limit or Method) would one shot most bosses, simply because their design is so very basic.
And I'm saying this as someone who actually plays Classic, but I do so in the understanding that the game is a meme and the only thing it can give you is some fun with people from way back when.
I'd like to see a retail pug let alone an LFR group being able to walk into BWL on a serve with so many people as Gehennas, especially horde, let alone doing that with the buffs APES had, which are also a PVP guild not really a PVE one ( hence why so many of them are gnomes as opposed to humans ).
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And I really want to address this because if they ever do servers for the other expansions specifically the burning Crusade people will try to use the argument that grades were open for months before they were cleared and it’s a lot like vanilla in that aspect in the reasoning for both is the same
The reason why the Raid’s took so long to be cleared in the past is not because of a lack of skill overall or yam being it too complicated but characters being actually unable to kill the stuff quickly and the players themselves not having a lot of knowledge I mean now we have better resources
We have DPS doing double the numbers that were expected we have players with their best in slot gear we have Raid‘s who were funneling some gear to the main players and already had a best in slot list we have better itemization we have better talents we have an overall more skilled player base and there are no secrets left back in the day in a Therion having his special ability that would screw with you based on your class was unheard of unexpectedAnd a curveball but now players know all about it players have been clearing it for decades it’s not new anymore this is like releasing a halo remastered and being surprised that people get through the story in a matter of four hours
Complete spurgs the lot of them. I've always wondered if the real reason alot of them quit wow over the years is because they didn't have the skill and ability to remain top raiders when raids started getting actualy difficult.
What alot of top raiders in the old days had was excessive time, cholesterol and BO. Maybe with the slight patiance to listen to some autistic accented ideot scream basic raid mechanics at them. What a joke.
I don’t think that had anything to do with the rest of that post which was not referencing them getting into the instance but their performance in it and I’m sorry but even in LFr with only 25 people you’re going to get in interrupt without having to be yelled at to do it
There have been retail random groups that have cleared her Roeck a ternal palace in two hours and the first boss of that Raid is more difficult and complicated than a majority of black wing later
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If we get TBC next, it's important that we all demand pre nerf TBC. This wasn't done for Classic, majority was happy with 1.12 and there was no real demand for item progression.
Not saying pre nerf TBC is going to be super hard, I did it all at the time, I just don't want to get TBC in the nerfed state.
haha yeah good point! Classic raids in 2020 is not hard, it just requires prep & time before you enter the raid. The raid(s) itself aint hard at all. With 40 man raids you cant really make complex fights. Imagine retail raids of today with a roster of 40 people, or just even LFR with 40 people. Its a mess enough already.
The game(retail) is harder today when looking at mechanics etc on bosses. It requires more of you.
As a player who has played since launch and grown up with the game I noticed years ago that the difficulty bar was raised(except on lfr). Even normal mode requires more of you.
In classic you just stood there most of the time pressing 1 button without anything going on. then boss would do 1-2 abilities throughout the fight. But in classic you aslo had to put in the time before & after raids to be ready.
Its kind of interesting watching how many people on this forum constantly shitting on LFR all the while alot of people praise classic raids who is about same difficulty, atleast so far. Whats REALLY the deal there? It cant be the difficulty, it must be something else.
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APES lost the WF race. Nothing more to it than that.
Is running 100 meters hard? No? Then why is Usain Bolt such a household name? There's always a challenge in doing X faster than anyone else.
If they try to get WF only because of people like me who understands they lost something they tried to win, their egos are quite fragile indeed. They cared about WF, and they lost. Sure, they won this week's speedrun, but that wasn't the competition this week.