Mega-Thread: Democratic 2020 Primaries

[Telogrus]

Why do all former Obama and Hillary staffers have the reverse midas touch?

[Flarelaine]

That may prove true, but the reality is that people should be concerned about both Trump AND the fact that a billionaire could just buy the presidency.

If the only qualification for winning the race becomes how much your billionaire candidate can spend on TV ads and social media adverts, the US essentially becomes a plutocracy.

As long as people vote based on TV ads and social media adverts, any office will be up for sale. People (everywhere) would have to make an effort to inform and educate themselves - not only about the candidates, but about the world and how it works.

[lockybalboa]

Bloomberg or Trump what a conundrum

[announced]

Bloomberg or Trump what a conundrum

That would be kinda funny, billionaire vs billionaire. It's like Lex Luthor vs Batman, if Lex Luthor wasn't an evil genius but instead was thin skinned and vindictive, and Batman was a racist that needed an apple cart to stand on to make up for his smaller stature.

Just from the sidelines it's very entertaining to watch the dems fight each other.

[Wyrt]

Sean Hannity called Sanders a "soviet-style socialist" because Sanders said he would consider legalizing prostitution.

Please ignore that:
1. Prostitution being legal or not has nothing to do with socialism. Hell, I'd argue that it's a right-wing position.
and
2. The soviet union outlawed prostitution

Why is Fox news so fucking stupid? They can't even fact check their own god damned propaganda.

[Masark]

They can't even fact check their own god damned propaganda.

Their audience is never going to check facts, so why waste the time and money on fact checking?

[Cthulhu 2020]

He is literally shitposting.

"BOTH SIDES CAN DO IT AND IT'S ALL BAD!" Rather than "Yeah, my followers did some shitty stuff, I'm sorry". "Both sides", whataboutism, deflection, it's all BS, and anyone who uses it in spades is no better than Trump. If the people who support you are being shit heels, decry them, make them ashamed for the shit they pull and get them in line. I get it though, it's ok if your side does it because you're more righteous!

Doesn't matter if someone stated they'd be shitposting in a post previous post. Look at the content of their post. You're just disregarding him out of hand because you have no real defense, so you'd rather attack his character than address the subject being discussed. There's a phrase for that ya know.

[ezgeze]

Bernie Sanders seeks foreign interference in order to win the democrat primary and the 2020 elections!

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Mod Edit: Don't just post memes.

The part at the end where they try to activate his manchurian candidate mode in order for him to bring USSR communism to the USA is laughable. He had been activated for a handful+ decades already.

[Orbitus]

Sean Hannity called Sanders a "soviet-style socialist" because Sanders said he would consider legalizing prostitution.

Please ignore that:
1. Prostitution being legal or not has nothing to do with socialism. Hell, I'd argue that it's a right-wing position.
and
2. The soviet union outlawed prostitution

Why is Fox news so fucking stupid? They can't even fact check their own god damned propaganda.

Yeah, that doesn't make sense. Considering Nevada has basically legalized prostitution. Australia has legalized it too, they love having it.

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Bernie Sanders seeks foreign interference in order to win the democrat primary and the 2020 elections!

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The part at the end where they try to activate his manchurian candidate mode in order for him to bring USSR communism to the USA is laughable. He had been activated for a handful+ decades already.

Jesus tap dancing christ. Do you work to be wrong? Or does it come naturally?

[ezgeze]

Yeah, that doesn't make sense. Considering Nevada has basically legalized prostitution. Australia has legalized it too, they love having it.

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Jesus tap dancing christ. Do you work to be wrong? Or does it come naturally?

I know that the left cant take a joke but Jesus tap dancing Christ. Do you work to be this bad? Or does it come naturally?

Don't blame me for finding humor in the fact that your boy:
took a honeymoon in communist controlled Russia and drank shirtless with a bunch of communists only later to gush over all the good qualities of theirs
thinks bread lines are actually a good thing
cant seem to understand how money, taxes, industries or economies work
hasn't passed a single significant piece of legislation in his long embarrassing career
surrounds himself and fills his campaign with antiesemites, actual communists, anarchists, ANTIFA members, etc who think gulags were a good thing because they paid a wage and were used as reeducation camps, spitters who apparently like to run over their opponents and people who like to slap 15 year old children
recently had a fucking heart attack and already said he wont turn over his medical records
etc, etc

all this and more and you cant find a prank call by a couple of ruskies (probably drunk off cheap vodka)? Oh Noooooo, you mean I cant laugh at them pretending to be greta Thunberg as he tried to recruit her to advocate for him and work for his campaign only to find out its actually not real? Oh no. I mean holy shit, if you cant laugh when they claimed during his honeymoon in Russia the KGB brainwashed him to be a sleeper agent to bring communism to the USA under orders from Putin as they try to "activate him"? My god man, learn to take a joke. Its not funny because he was pranked, everyone gets prank calls. Its funny because Bernie sanders actually has a stupid history of being a communist, only useful idiots of his refuse to acknowledge it.
[Infraction]

[TheramoreIsTheBomb]

Funny how many Democrats and rogue Republicans said they'd "vote for anyone who gets the Dem nomination" yet here they are trashing Bernie.

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Sean Hannity called Sanders a "soviet-style socialist" because Sanders said he would consider legalizing prostitution.

Please ignore that:
1. Prostitution being legal or not has nothing to do with socialism. Hell, I'd argue that it's a right-wing position.
and
2. The soviet union outlawed prostitution

Why is Fox news so fucking stupid? They can't even fact check their own god damned propaganda.

Faux News and CNN shouldn't even be considered real news. They're both bias, fake and almost as bad as MSNBC, who absolutely is the epitome of fake news and the cradle of pedophiles and scandals.

[zealo]

Funny how many Democrats and rogue Republicans said they'd "vote for anyone who gets the Dem nomination" yet here they are trashing Bernie.

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Faux News and CNN shouldn't even be considered real news. They're both bias, fake and almost as bad as MSNBC, who absolutely is the epitome of fake news and the cradle of pedophiles and scandals.

Sanders hasn't gotten the nomination just yet.

There is no contradiction in opposing him as the choice for it at this stage, and saying you'll still vote for him if he do become the option to Trump.

[Lenonis]

These Warren supporters were saying early on in the election cycle that they would support whichever progressive was leading, but that was only because they were sure that said progressive would be Warren. Now that she’s dropping like a rock, they’ve got sour grapes and keep on trashing Bernie. According to them, Warren is losing because of sexist Bernie Bros (lol).

It’s sad how so many people care more about identity politics than actual policies.

meanwhile in reality a vast majority of Warren supporters state they will vote for any other candidate if the nominee. Bernie's supporters? Only half.

[breadisfunny]

Bernie Sanders seeks foreign interference in order to win the democrat primary and the 2020 elections!

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The part at the end where they try to activate his manchurian candidate mode in order for him to bring USSR communism to the USA is laughable. He had been activated for a handful+ decades already.

oh look it's you again. how many times do we have to prove your wrong OVER AND OVER AGAIN?

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Sean Hannity called Sanders a "soviet-style socialist" because Sanders said he would consider legalizing prostitution.

Please ignore that:
1. Prostitution being legal or not has nothing to do with socialism. Hell, I'd argue that it's a right-wing position.
and
2. The soviet union outlawed prostitution

Why is Fox news so fucking stupid? They can't even fact check their own god damned propaganda.

hannity's audience doesn't care about facts.

[ezgeze]

oh look it's you again. how many times do we have to prove your wrong OVER AND OVER AGAIN?

Seriously what the fuck is wrong with you. You claim I am wrong but don't say whats wrong. NO DUR< UR WRONG!

Nice rebuttal style /eyeroll
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...ed-her-support

Russian pranksters posing as Thunberg claim Sanders welcomed her support

Russian pranksters pretending to be teenage climate activist Greta Thunberg claimed they called Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and offered support for his White House bid, which they say he welcomed.
In a video posted to YouTube this week, Vladimir Kuznetsov and Alexey Stolyarov recorded a phone call that appears to depict the voice of the Democratic presidential hopeful.
Kuznetsov told The Associated Press that they released the audio of the supposed December phone after Sanders had success in Iowa and New Hampshire, the first two states to hold voting in the presidential nominating race.

Sanders's campaign has not confirmed the authenticity of the call. The Hill has reached out to the campaign for comment.
The nearly 12-minute phone call includes an unnamed female pretending to be Thunberg, while Stolyarov plays the Swedish teenager’s father.
A man is heard identifying himself as Sanders and thanks them for their show of support. He also suggests that “Greta” make a statement supporting his presidential bid and offers to host an event together the next time she is in the United States.
“I would be really appreciative,” the man says.
The voice pretending to be Thunberg then tells the senator that she wants to have singer Billie Eilish and rapper Kanye West write a rap song supporting Sanders.
He tells her that would be “terrific” and tries to end the phone call before the fake father-daughter duo say Thunberg is about to visit Russia, asking the U.S. senator for advice.

“I think what you don’t want to do is simply walk in there and get used,” the person depicted as Sanders says, noting that she should be careful not to be used in a public relations stunt.
“Russia and (President Vladimir) Putin has been very bad, as far as I know, on climate change. They have a lot of oil, oil is important for their economy, they make a lot of money on oil,” he added.
The voice pretending to be Thunberg tells Sanders that he was recruited by the KGB while visiting Russia in 1988.
“You were programed to work for Russia and your memory was erased so the CIA wouldn’t track you down,” the fake Thunberg said.
“Is this what you believe?” Sanders replied.
“Yes, you become a sleeper agent of the KGB,” the fake Thunberg said. “Now it’s time to wake up and fulfill your mission, become president of the United States, build communism in the United States and work for Russia. I’ll tell you the code phrase and you will remember.”
The person depicted as Sanders then appears to hang up.
Kuznetsov told the AP that the prank call is part of their new project called “Stars Save the Earth,” in which they pretend to be Thunberg while talking to politicians and celebrities.
“Many laugh at Bernie Sanders (and say) that he is a KGB agent and wants to build communism in the U.S. Since he calls himself a democratic socialist, we decided to play up this topic — the topic of Sanders being a recruited Russian agent,” Kuznetsov said.
He added that using the name of the teenager “opens doors to everyone.”
“Everyone, from presidents to street cleaners, are ready to talk to Greta Thunberg,” Kuznetsov told the AP.
A U.S. official told the outlet that federal law enforcement was alerted in November that several Democrats had received calls from someone believed to be outside the country claiming to be Thunberg, asking to set up calls or in-person meetings.

Some of the congressional offices reported the incidents to the FBI and the Capitol Police, the official said.
In October, Thunberg tweeted an apology to people who have contacted by people falsely impersonating her or claiming to represent her.
“It has come to my attention that a few people have been trying to impersonate me or falsely claim that they 'represent' me in order to communicate with political leaders, famous actors, singers and musicians. I apologize to anyone who’s been contacted - and maybe even misled by this kind of behavior,” Thunberg tweeted.
“I hope that those who want to sincerely reach out to me will do so using the recognized channels. The good news in all of this is that this just means we're having impact. Activism works. And see you in the streets!” Thunberg continued.

and Bernie Sanders campaign is suddenly quiet and not saying anything about it because it makes him look stupid.

TLDR: I was right, you were wrong, thanks for playing.

[Kaleredar]

Seriously what the fuck is wrong with you. You claim I am wrong but don't say whats wrong. NO DUR< UR WRONG!

Nice rebuttal style /eyeroll
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...ed-her-support


and Bernie Sanders campaign is suddenly quiet and not saying anything about it because it makes him look stupid.

TLDR: I was right, you were wrong, thanks for playing.

I haven’t kept up with your nonsense, but seeing as the only source you cite is the word of “Russian pranksters...” get the fix out of here.

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Sean Hannity called Sanders a "soviet-style socialist" because Sanders said he would consider legalizing prostitution.

Please ignore that:
1. Prostitution being legal or not has nothing to do with socialism. Hell, I'd argue that it's a right-wing position.
and
2. The soviet union outlawed prostitution

Why is Fox news so fucking stupid? They can't even fact check their own god damned propaganda.

You’re forgetting the most obvious dig, here:

Trump actively engaged in prostitution

[arandomuser]

I heard from all of these "anti sjw" people that their only problem with the dems is we are "too Pc" and too " social justice focused"

so here i am waiting for those people to support bloomberg when he takes the nomination


"crickets"

im told they are still voting for trump

guess we tried !

[ezgeze]

I haven’t kept up with your nonsense, but seeing as the only source you cite is the word of “Russian pranksters...” get the fix out of here.

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Well considering the article actually names and quotes them and seems to fit the narrative of other calls using gretta to call democrat politicians...……...yeah I will put more weight behind this than all the bullshit "anonymous sources" that the left loves to get their stories from.

[TheramoreIsTheBomb]

Where is the conflict?

You can quite easily "trash" someone and still vote for them. Pretty sure this applied in 2016 when your choice was Trump and Hillary.


Tone your nonsense down, Jesus wept.

never voted in 2016. go ahead and trash the candidates that you still will vote for. you will be the same ones complaining about who is in the white house a month later. this is why i dont affilate myself with any political parties. nothing but echo chambers and people with their heads stuck in the sand

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I heard from all of these "anti sjw" people that their only problem with the dems is we are "too Pc" and too " social justice focused"

so here i am waiting for those people to support bloomberg when he takes the nomination


"crickets"

im told they are still voting for trump

guess we tried !

anti sjw and sjw people are two sides of the same coin. cant wait until the 2 party system dies. this country will be so much better off and can choose for ourselves rather what's best for party and what dollars to hand to China and what for

[Kaleredar]

Well considering the article actually names and quotes them and seems to fit the narrative of other calls using gretta to call democrat politicians...……...yeah I will put more weight behind this than all the bullshit "anonymous sources" that the left loves to get their stories from.

So you choose to believe a source that by its nature is disreputable because it fits a narrative you’ve already convinced yourself is true.

You’re the kind of person they could sell oceanfront property to in Kansas.

(Kansas is a landlocked state in the US, in case you’re not up on foreign geography)

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never voted in 2016. go ahead and trash the candidates that you still will vote for. you will be the same ones complaining about who is in the white house a month later. this is why i dont affilate myself with any political parties. nothing but echo chambers and people with their heads stuck in the sand

Trump and the democratic nominees— all of them— and what the two parties represent and would mean for the future of the country are so colossally different that sitting on the sidelines saying “well really they’re both the same” is miles of dishonest.

And hell, if you didn’t vote... you really have no right to complain about anything trump is doing. You refused to take the one step you could to have done anything about it.

I will awake a happy man on November 17th if trump is no longer president, no matter which democratic nominee sits in the White House.