As long as people don't act like this was some diabolical/intentional act by Blizz. At the end of the day, these are player sold items that have nothing to do with Blizz. Someone could theoretically sell a top tier Corruption BoE or 1-10k gold and no one would be crying about P2W. The amount of people paying $200+ to buy a single BoE is infinitely smaller than most P2W heralds seem think. These items are being sold primarily to the vast amount of players/guilds in the game that have asinine amounts of gold that they've been stockpiling.
"But it's still P2W. They could pay $200 and get a 15% dps increase". Sure, but what's going to happen later this year? What's going to happen when all of this is stripped away and ceases to exist? What's going to happen when the value of these BoE's goes down, and starts selling for a fraction of the price? What if you logged in on Tuesday and Blizz nerfed these 1mil+ traits by 80%?
I understand the feeling that, a powerful item COULD be bought with money. However, anything in this game can be bought with money, and this supposed outlier is no different. Players create various economies in WoW, whether or not a specific sector is legal through Blizz's terms. Players also created the demand for the illegal gold selling industry and RMT, both things that cause a lot of headaches for Blizz. Blizz did not create any of these issues, they did not present the game with potential P2W situations, that was the playerbases doing.
Was referring to player damage in general which is absolutely reduced, significantly so, in PvP. Complaining about corruption in arena is pointless, as it relates to this topic, as the issue there is corruption itself. If the ONLY source of corruption effects was BOEs then yeah you'd be a lot closer to having a point. But they aren't, so you don't.
And we can argue costs and amount and %'s or whatever until we're blue in the face. The game isn't pay to win, and the OP doesn't even seem to get what 'pay to win' actually means as it relates to games.
By the OP's obtuse definition of P2W (pwning teh meturz omgggg!!!111) I've been 'winning' WoW most of the time I've been playing it.
Appreciate your time with friends and family while they're here. Don't wait until they're gone to tell them what they mean to you.
So it's okay because there are corruptions that don't deal direct damage?
To get this straight:
So if a certain class favours stat boost over direct damage - it's okay.
If a certain class favours direct damage - it's not okay.
Despite both of these effects coming out of the same system?
So this is not okay?
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...done&source=14
That's an outlier, there's a couple in there for now, but they'll be pushed out.
the 300 or so mastery that corruptions gave pepe at the time wouldn't have provided 31% of his dmg.
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That's been happening since Vanilla. It's not a new thing, shit we used to sell Thunderfury drops.
Heaven forbid seeing the better players budget their corruption correctly, as opposed to saying "LuLW Infinite Stars on Xanesh Heroic!" /s
The argument of Corruption being powerful is moot, however I'd argue proper Azerite and Neck essences can be just as impactful; let alone playing well.
I've stated elsewhere on this forum, my Corruption is 61 in raid and is a net gain of 12% dps. I can swing that much by playing badly
Anytime you see a log of a DH on Shadhar where 25+% of his damage is stars (which is a super specific outlier in it's own right) , ask yourself how much he would have done with the same Corruption value, on something else like Lash of the Void and Gushing wounds. Hint: they're almost identical on sims.
Good players stay good players - if they buy power for real money or not. I thought we cleared that already......
You are literially like "here one player who didnt spend couple millions on boe and is good, therefore buying power for real money is not buying power for real money." Are you intentionally trolling at this point?
There has always been BOE stuff available, but I think that's a disingenuous argument if you're going to ignore relative strength. Is it "pay to win" or is it pay to "WIN!"? There is also the point that in the past you stood a real chance of getting banned for buying gold, I know folks who did. Nowadays Blizzard make money from that so it's completely part of the system, where in the past it was completely against the rules.
If the reality is like buying Warglaives from the AH (which it is) it can't be compared to Lionheart Helmet.
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Probably running on a Pentium 4
You need to look again.
Some corruptions go under the radar - mainly stat corruptions which are ridiculous. Expedient on Destros or Masterful on Mages - night and day.
Take every Destruction Warlock top 10 slice and it's all stacked Expedient or at least couple of those.
Same with Fire Mages - it's literally Masterful or go home right there.