Only difficult about classic is getting groups, and getting does group to complete the dungeons they started, people give up really quick.
Only difficult about classic is getting groups, and getting does group to complete the dungeons they started, people give up really quick.
Dude, just open wowprog.
https://www.wowprogress.com/encounte...rruptor-heroic
Practice did splits yes, 2 raids in the first week. It took them 14 hrs to kill N'zoth, with and avg. ilvl of 452. They did not bloat the raid to increase the number of items dropped, no. They did it with their main team, with characters which were prepared to be used in mythic progress.
Here is the guild which got EU first: https://www.wowprogress.com/guild/eu...y+Homeless+Men , who only did a rerun the next day to test stuff i think (characters with ID cleared it again). Main team, top 20 world, 8 hours.
Are you still saying that no "capable" guild went straight to clear hc?
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I highly doubt that it is possible in pre-raid BiS. From a healer PoV i think it is quite impossible. Preraid BiS does not offer mana and healing on the same items, just one or the other (at least in significant amounts). Simply due to that fact, I dont think it is possible.
Leveling is a cheek bustin experience. Nothing easy about it. You can't just go blastin through zones. The raids may be easier, but you're going to die much more in leveling and dungeons in classic than you are in retail. People just try to find reasons to shit on classic.
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I can hit 1-120 2 days. You aren't cheesing 1-60. Modern wow is 99% of the game is faceroll. The 1% (mythic raids) is difficult. No way in hell LFR is harder than classic raids. MC is a joke, but once AQ and Naxx hit, people aren't going to be spewing this nonsense.
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Nobody was lied to. Again, people are just trying to find reasons to shit on classic. I never played classic. But I'm having a blast. And i've dies WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more times in classic than retail. People are comparing MC to modern wow. You obviously don't like it. But it's busy as hell on my server and many others. I can't see why so many people are worrying about something that they don't really care about. So don't wonder why people like something. Worry about what you like.
People raged when classic was announced because they thought it was a nod to hardcores. And that just isn't going to fly. So they spend countless hours trying to tear it down.
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You don't need to understand classic players. You're just looking for a reason to bitch about it. Checkers is an easy game. People still play it though. Just like people buy old preloaded game systems. Because newer isn't always better and older isn't always worse.
And again, 90% of retail players are playing easy raids. Very few are playing mythic. And you get gear from retail just for logging in that is more than enough for normal and heroic raids.
"Do you think man will ever walk on the sun? -Ali G
only hard thing about classic is to not go mental lvling up
OMG, this is too good. If only you realised this is EXACTLY what people said about BWL. When MC was steamrolled in an hour, some clowns said "it means nothing, you just wait for BWL! youll see! its mythic difficulty or higher!" And now those same clowns are saying "BWL was nothing, you just wait for AQ and NAXX!" Tens of THOUSANDS of players steamrolled BWL in 1-3 hours the day of release. AQ and naxx will provide very little more in the way of challenge.
Please, PLEASE tell us all about this loot you get "just for logging in" to retail. PLEASE, im sure we are all dying to know about the mailbox full of 420+ loot we get just for logging in. Do you know some trick that no one else does?
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tell that to the players begging for server mergers.
The only people begging for merges are on retail, oh wait, they already merged all the servers because it's a ghost town with barely anyone playing lmao.
Dude, we get it, you don't like Classic. That's fine, no one is forcing you to play it. Please go play your garbage retail and stop talking delusional crap on the forum.
Classic is a good representation of a good relic from a time when Blizzard was... not as it is today. Having to pay Blizzard for it is unfortunate, but a lot of people are willing enough to make this small compromise in order to play something that they see as being genuinely good. It's no surprise that they feel they have little in common with the Retail crowd.
People don't play classic because they want a challenge. They play it because it's an mmorpg.
I think it's misguided to assume that everyone who has issues with Classic must be in love with retail. It's not that black and white.
I for example hate most things about retail except the actual raid encounters and the way they challenge me.
I love most things about Classic except how all the raid encounters are dog shit , piss easy and an insulting to your intelligence.
I play both, and enjoy both for what they are - imo, the two most flawed iterations of the game. I pretty much only raid in BFA now, and tbh, thats about all i do in classic now too, just because i can have a few beers, watch netflix, talk shit, afk whenever, it really doesnt matter, and that is a nice change from demanding and challenging content that requires full attention.
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I agree with this, however, having played vanilla extensively, i have no interest in exploring or adventuring in classic - been there done that. I also raided a lot, and still raid in BfA, however one is a very social and relaxed, with nearly all my enjoyment coming from interacting with friends and talking shit while drinking some brews and watching netflix, youtube, and afking whenever i like, including during bosses - no one cares, we are all there to just walk over the content and enjoy a relaxed environment. The other side of the coin is enjoying BfA for the high difficulty, and more structured environment (one that i as raid leader control, so this is by design, not accident).
To be honest, we only last a couple of weeks in Classic before most go back full time into retail. For me, its because although "new" content seems exciting, two things happen when we enter the first time - 1) we are immediately hit with nostalgia, which lasts about 5 minutes before it wears off, and 2) when a raid of players like us, non PS players, only a few played in vanilla, walk in and just clear the entire raid with 1 or 2 wipes, it really doesnt compare to the feeling of killing a boss that is actually challenging.
For me, classic raids are like a squash match - Tyson Fury vs That guy from work who breathes real loud and picks his nose