9.0 General Discussion

[infinitemeridian]

I’m basing it from WoD

We have 4 zones and technically the quests were able to get two levels but players got a third

Plus you can assume final zone is like the final leveling zone for every linear expansion in that it’s more story and gear than exp

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The only way you can tell if it’s happening is if people like
Bay
Sco
Preach
Asmon
Towelliee

All come to murica

All of those people except for Preach / Sco already live in America.

[Revamp Man]

All of those people except for Preach / Sco already live in America.

California

[arandomuser]

just a showerthought i had...

shadowlands will basically have a huge stat squish,

losing all of your 3rd party sources of power
Azerite armor
essences
corruption
cape.


Theres a good chance you might be doing less dps in the first tier of shadowlands than the end of nyalotha

and i think this might be intentional and part of their larger gameplan to avoid having to do stat squishes often

[FuujCraft]

just a showerthought i had...

shadowlands will basically have a huge stat squish,

losing all of your 3rd party sources of power
Azerite armor
essences
corruption
cape.


Theres a good chance you might be doing less dps in the first tier of shadowlands than the end of nyalotha

and i think this might be intentional and part of their larger gameplan to avoid having to do stat squishes often

I doubt that will happen. People were already complaining that during BfAs leveling their character progressively felt weaker with every level they gained. Also they already said that there will be no Stat Squish in Shadowlands. Ony a Level squish, numbers will stay the same though.

[arandomuser]

I doubt that will happen. People were already complaining that during BfAs leveling their character progressively felt weaker with every level they gained. Also they already said that there will be no Stat Squish in Shadowlands. Ony a Level squish, numbers will stay the same though.

I dont mean a state squish literally, i mea your power parity is inevitabely going down just due to your azerite, essences and corruption not being available in shadowlands, similar to losing legion legendaries at 115, and could create ressults SIMILAR to a stat squish where you are doing like 40k dps in the first raid after doing like 100k dps in nyalotha

[FlubberPuddy]

I dont mean a state squish literally, i mea your power parity is inevitabely going down just due to your azerite, essences and corruption not being available in shadowlands, similar to losing legion legendaries at 115, and could create ressults SIMILAR to a stat squish where you are doing like 40k dps in the first raid after doing like 100k dps in nyalotha

Dunno if it'll be like that, they'll somehow make it where just like in BfA there will be a certain level between 50-60 (definitely by 60) that our leveling gear will surpass all our gear from BfA. They can do this one of two ways:

1) Have what appears to be a huge powerlevel jump at the beginning of Shadowlands (ie lvl 51 ilvl gear is 2-3x superior to than current ilvl gear) while it actually makes us take on enemies fairly.

2) Progressively have the power increase of ilvl gear as we level that by the time we're lvl 60 any lvl 50 gear is vastly obsolete. <-- This will definitely happen.

Plus, they've already said that our neck won't work in Shadowlands but it will work for old content. So already we're going to lose a lot of our power level because I believe the neck is tied to Azerite traits and Essences.

The legendary cape will probably become obsolete at some point during leveling as well. And/or there could be something that happens where our corruption is essentially cleansed going into Shadowlands so it just becomes basic gear. They haven't really told us how Corruption will stop once 9.0 is in, since Corruption has been confirmed as only 8.3 content.

[matrix123mko]

They added new patch but still encrypted. I suppose they will play this game until next week.

[ercarp]

Well, looks like yesterday was a dud. Here's to hoping we get something worthwhile in the next 24 hours.

[Dreen]

I mean there was an alpha at blizzcon, just look at those numbers, they were hitting with around 1-2k autoattacks and 2-7k with spells, so by 60 it should be around uldir , maybe battle of dazar alor numbers? so basically just a reset to early BfA numbers, they might go with this route evry time now and try to stick with these numbers for new expansion beginnings

[matrix123mko]

I mean there was an alpha at blizzcon, just look at those numbers, they were hitting with around 1-2k autoattacks and 2-7k with spells, so by 60 it should be around uldir , maybe battle of dazar alor numbers? so basically just a reset to early BfA numbers, they might go with this route evry time now and try to stick with these numbers for new expansion beginnings

Yes. It seems so.

[Yarathir]

I mean there was an alpha at blizzcon, just look at those numbers, they were hitting with around 1-2k autoattacks and 2-7k with spells, so by 60 it should be around uldir , maybe battle of dazar alor numbers? so basically just a reset to early BfA numbers, they might go with this route evry time now and try to stick with these numbers for new expansion beginnings

They were level 50 (120 equivalent) in Uldir ilvl gear.

[Revamp Man]

Dunno if it'll be like that, they'll somehow make it where just like in BfA there will be a certain level between 50-60 (definitely by 60) that our leveling gear will surpass all our gear from BfA. They can do this one of two ways:

1) Have what appears to be a huge powerlevel jump at the beginning of Shadowlands (ie lvl 51 ilvl gear is 2-3x superior to than current ilvl gear) while it actually makes us take on enemies fairly.

2) Progressively have the power increase of ilvl gear as we level that by the time we're lvl 60 any lvl 50 gear is vastly obsolete. <-- This will definitely happen.

Plus, they've already said that our neck won't work in Shadowlands but it will work for old content. So already we're going to lose a lot of our power level because I believe the neck is tied to Azerite traits and Essences.

The legendary cape will probably become obsolete at some point during leveling as well. And/or there could be something that happens where our corruption is essentially cleansed going into Shadowlands so it just becomes basic gear. They haven't really told us how Corruption will stop once 9.0 is in, since Corruption has been confirmed as only 8.3 content.

Almost entirely off-topic but anyone else annoyed that the cloak Prock is a Prock and not in on use

Like I get it they have to have the ability to spell corruption but seriously a huge random Prock I am so tired of those

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They were level 50 (120 equivalent) in Uldir ilvl gear.

I mean most people will be fully heroic geared so we can take that and say that maybe we will start getting upgrades in the third area but they will have to do something with Azurra traits which if I remember right the neck and everything attached to it will no longer work once we enter the Shadowlands

I mean most people will be fully heroic geared so we can take that and say that maybe we will start getting upgrades in the third area but they will have to do something with as a right trade switch if I remember right the neck and everything attached to it will no longer work once we enter the Shadowlands


This essentially means that we are losing a great amount of our power because some as a right traits are worth over 10 KDPS so multiply it by two because most people are stacking two traits then you get rid of the little stat bonuses or whatever are the third ring for people and cancel out corruption because that won’t be a thing so you are left with basic gear


I see 57 is when we get new stuff I mean we don’t even have legendary’s to give us a 2% boost anymore

[zeir]

At this point it seems obvious we wont get a thing till mid march, lost all hope.

[Trout]

At this point it seems obvious we wont get a thing till mid march, lost all hope.

how is it obvious?

[ercarp]

how is it obvious?

It's not, he clearly hasn't been paying attention to anything that's been going on. Currently everything we know points to the Alpha going live this week or the next.

[Dracullus]

For sure it's strange we got builds on both Monday and Tuesday. It's feels like they want to push something ASAP.

[therumblings]

I just can't wait for datamining to start so we can see the flood of new customization options.

[Dioporco]

I just can't wait for datamining to start so we can see the flood of new customization options.

Not really what this game needs ATM but why not

[therumblings]

Not really what this game needs ATM but why not

The game's customization is stupidly low for being 15 years old and very outdated for 2020, new customization is always welcome.

[Craaazyyy]

The game's customization is stupidly low for being 15 years old and very outdated for 2020, new customization is always welcome.

sure, but it's not absolutely needed.. gameplay changes, class changes etc. is what's needed