GDKP - if no one has posted this already: https://www.engadget.com/2010/06/14/...un-and-profit/
I've never done one but I see them regularly on my server - my guild runs them occasionally.
GDKP - if no one has posted this already: https://www.engadget.com/2010/06/14/...un-and-profit/
I've never done one but I see them regularly on my server - my guild runs them occasionally.
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Nice. Finally I'll have something to spend my thousands of gold on.
Blizzard doesn't even have a hand in the Chinese market and that market has been full of region-exclusive deals and designs for as long as I can remember.
Remember when selling XP potions or TCG loot boxes ruined the western market? Yeah, neither do I.
A soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon.
I laugh at the "cash grab." arguments.
It's business, everything is a cash grab. If you're not out there to make as some people sarcastically say "ALL THE MONEY." you're failing. Yes even your precious little local store is hoping for all the money. They just not found a way to do it yet.
It's probably fair to point out that at least for sustaining a subscription the token already exists for classic. You just need to play enough in retail to do it.
"...money's most powerful ability is to allow bad people to continue doing bad things at the expense of those who don't have it."
It's basic economy...gear is the only meaningful thing apart from riding/mounts you can get on Classic. Once tokens become available there will be easy gold exchange between whales and gold makers. In the beggining the prices will skyrocket due to whales wanting ez gear and no/small amount of carry groups and then when organised communities flourish and the average whale is done with gearing chars prices will flatten and steadily drop.
Kotick is once again sacrificing the most dedicated players experience in the name of appeasing shareholders and his own pockets, no more, no less and only half a year went by
I thought this was a troll website with the way everything was worded "classic nostalgia" maybe it was just me
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Just because you can do something in the game doesn't make it content per se.
Your comparison to BFA is silly though because there is actual content designed to provide you with things to do. If you can't see the difference between engaging in a dynamically changing system of World Quests for a variety of rewards (content) and mindlessly farming sheep for skinning in Elwynn (as much "content" as any other generic gold farm is) then I don't know what to say. Is it a fun system for everyone? No. But it's content because there is a designed system.
By your logic any game with an instantly respawning single mob and the ability to loot it has unlimited amounts of content since you can conceivably kill and loot it forever. But we both know that's BS, no one would point at that game as say "Man, this game has so much content!", we'd say "That game is trash, there's no content - nothing to do."
TL;DR - If gold farming is considered meaningful content then any game that has literally any action one can perform has meaningful content.
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You should put on your big boy pants and fish in the Bay of Storms like a real man. I fish for gold, but I don't consider it anything remotely close to "content".
Wasting your time? I could sit in SW and RP walk around pretending to be a vendor for 10 days worth of play time but I wouldn't expect people to consider that "content".
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Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Little difference here @jackofwind is that with the gold i farmed fishing...i made gold to buy meaningful things.
In BfA i do World quests and...you are rewarded with the worst rewards in the entire game.
Good job.
Keep doing those world quests.
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Also, i find it hard to believe all the time and hours i spent farming and leveling up cooking and fishing were..."imaginary" content.
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Never said that, I strongly believe they have fucked up retail beyond any repair at this point. Thus I only play Classic.
I don't believe WoW Tokens is the big bad, but it was for sure one of the many steps they did to fuck it over. But in it self, not bad at all. People who want to buy gold will do so, and there are ways ingame that Blizzard simply won't notice unless someone reports and/or it's huge amounts of gold being shifted around.
ActiBlizz is slowly killing WoW though, no doubt about that.
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Now now, not all farms are braindead. My two go-to farms which are RFD and DM East solo runs is fun-ish, I guess. RFD is kinda braindead, as all I do is stealth and pick herbs, then kill 3 bosses. DM east however actually takes practice to perform well, and is to me more fun than raiding MC is at the moment. In short time periods of course, I never spend more than one hour at the time doing a farm.
And they provide a decent chunk of gold.
I don't play BFA but I'm able to recognize a system of rewards when I see one, and whether I think it's engaging or not doesn't detract from the fact that it is a system of content that was designed and implemented. Also, plenty of casual people playing the game benefit those rewards so don't think for a minute you speak for any kind of majority playerbase. Most people playing Retail WoW play casually.
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I do full DMEruns as a Hunter, specifically to loot books and for the Rich Thorium nodes at the end of the run, and I also do DMN runs to sell tribute chest loot to people - and I don't consider those activities to be "content".
DM in and of itself is content because it's a dungeon (ie: a specifically-designed group activity with a specific goal and a means to achieve said goal), so one could argue that completing the dungeon solo is the same amount of content as completing it as a group. However that's still different from trying to make the argument that a straight gold farm is "content" simply because it's something that is possible to do.
This doesn't even touch on content being relevant only as long as it actually give relevant rewards, which seems to be Shadowpunk's argument about why World Quests aren't content (which is laughably hypocritical).
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Considering Wow: china is wow in property only with little to do with Blizzard proper, most likely china only like multiple things, BUT this is mmo-champion so feel free to hop on the "reeeeee, it could happen so im gonna start making posts daily about it with links to my favorite wow rage youtuber as proof"
The best part of all of these is watching the classic fans completely forgive EVERYTHING blizzard has done to classic. We joked this morning that if genuine, classic apologists would perform 10/10/10 mental gymnastics to turn this into a positive "fix", and sure enough, thats what you are doing.
[insert clown painting face meme]