9.0 General Discussion

[Gangreflamme]

I think I have more chances of getting the coronavirus than ever playing alpha at this point

[Heladys]

I think I have more chances of getting the coronavirus than ever playing alpha at this point

You can buff your chances for Corona virus by licking the door handles at Grand Central station bathrooms, but I don't think there's an equivalent option to buff your chances at alpha. So you're completely right.

[Edward Wu]

In-game during the end of the 8.2.5 questline, Nathanos confesses his love to Sylvanas and she just walks away in response. Danuser is self-aware.

[Valysar]

And that poor Nathanos will be killed in the next raid ! (at last)

[Nagawithlegs]

And that poor Nathanos will be killed in the next raid ! (at last)

I hope they save him for a mid-boss in Torghast, because having him be the final boss of Nathria instead of Mal'ganis would be a huge waste of opportunity. Also means we'd have two archer final bosses.

[Makabreska]

I hope they save him for a mid-boss in Torghast, because having him be the final boss of Nathria instead of Mal'ganis would be a huge waste of opportunity. Also means we'd have two archer final bosses.

What Mal'ganis?

[ercarp]

What Mal'ganis?

People think Mal'Ganis is going to make a cameo in Shadowlands because the Venthyr have some vague ties to the Nathrezim.

[Makabreska]

People think Mal'Ganis is going to make a cameo in Shadowlands because the Venthyr have some vague ties to the Nathrezim.

And they instantly put him as a first tier final boss? Please. Also, demons in our Afterlife? Twisting Nether is that way ->

[Aeluron Lightsong]

And they instantly put him as a first tier final boss? Please. Also, demons in our Afterlife? Twisting Nether is that way ->

Yeah but if demons die permanently and don't regen...are they just gone forever via oblivion or elsewhere.

[Dracullus]

People think Mal'Ganis is going to make a cameo in Shadowlands because the Venthyr have some vague ties to the Nathrezim.

Vampiric stuff, Castle Nathria, Nathrezim creating Helm of Domination - there is definitely something up with Nathrezim, I wouldn't be surprised if they're not regular demons, but race that escaped from SL or something.

[serra2]

Vampiric stuff, Castle Nathria, Nathrezim creating Helm of Domination - there is definitely something up with Nathrezim, I wouldn't be surprised if they're not regular demons, but race that escaped from SL or something.

Didn't they specifically have a home planet that got blown up by Illidan in his book?

[Makabreska]

Didn't they specifically have a home planet that got blown up by Illidan in his book?

That's true.

Yeah but if demons die permanently and don't regen...are they just gone forever via oblivion or elsewhere.

I mean, Shadowlands is Azeroth's afterlife, would be weird if galactic demons went there.

[Edward Wu]

Nathrezim are the village bicycles of the Warcraft universe. Shadowlands, Void, Legion, Light... Everyone's had a turn.

[formerShandalay]

You're super defensive, I literally made posts with those comments I'm talking about. Take a chill pill.

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Bravo, you actually get it.

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Can you find me a source for this? I don't recall them saying it like this from what I watched/read.

So, I found the exact quote about us having to break out the other heroes it's here: https://youtu.be/xHFYGcRVX_A (Should be with timestamp, but if it's not, it's at 8:44) and I found the panel where Ion talks about us going over there alive and the whole thing before the actual campaign https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q67Upjq7H8 (The first 20min basicly). Parts of that are also at the end of the deep dive panel here: https://youtu.be/6OHDAwg-Tw4 (if the timestamp isn't there, it starts at about 39:35)

[Nagawithlegs]

People think Mal'Ganis is going to make a cameo in Shadowlands because the Venthyr have some vague ties to the Nathrezim.

Vague ties? When the first raid is called castle NATHR(ezim)ia and necromantic vampires (not elves) exist for the first time in WoW since Dreadlords, you know Blizzard isn't being subtle.

This is the same expansion as ValKYRIANS. I would put actual money down on Nathrezim being revealed (AHHH RETCON BLIZZARD HELP ME!!!) as originally Venthyr who escaped into space to found Nathreza and become Dreadlords.

Spirit Healer world, Kel'thuzad world, Elune/Purple Dream world. Vampires are random in comparison, but not if they are meant to tie into Nathrezim.

[Dracullus]

Didn't they specifically have a home planet that got blown up by Illidan in his book?

It doesn't mean they have to originate from that planet, Nathrezim split form SL could be really ancient history. And of course it's just wild guess.

[Makabreska]

Vague ties? When the first raid is called castle NATHR(ezim)ia and necromantic vampires (not elves) exist for the first time in WoW since Dreadlords, you know Blizzard isn't being subtle.

This is the same expansion as ValKYRIANS. I would put actual money down on Nathrezim being revealed (AHHH RETCON BLIZZARD HELP ME!!!) as originally Venthyr who escaped into space to found Nathreza and become Dreadlords.

Spirit Healer world, Kel'thuzad world, Elune/Purple Dream world. Vampires are random in comparison, but not if they are meant to tie into Nathrezim.

This is really not a surprise, it was said @ Blizzcon this is the place of Val'kyrs origin.

[Nagawithlegs]

This is really not a surprise, it was said @ Blizzcon this is the place of Val'kyrs origin.

Yes... and I'm saying that Blizzard is not being subtle with their naming schemes now. Kyrians are derived from Valkyr and they are the Valkyr's original race, or inspiration for that race.

Same thing as Kul'tiras being retconned into Kul Tiras so that it sounds more like a Vrykul naming scheme, to tie them into the Drust's Vrykul Druids who originally named the place. (not to mention VryKUL) If a place is called Nathria like Nathrezim and Nathreza, it's not a coincidence. It's the same race.

[Makabreska]

Yes... and I'm saying that Blizzard is not being subtle with their naming schemes now. Kyrians are derived from Valkyr and they are the Valkyr's original race, or inspiration for that race.

Same thing as Kul'tiras being retconned into Kul Tiras so that it sounds more like a Vrykul naming scheme, to tie them into the Drust's Vrykul Druids who originally named the place. (not to mention VryKUL) If a place is called Nathria like Nathrezim and Nathreza, it's not a coincidence. It's the same race.

That was always the case with the names. Whisperwind, Lightbringer etc. It goes back to Warcraft 1. It's kinda a fantasy tradition now.

[Nagawithlegs]

That was always the case with the names. Whisperwind, Lightbringer etc. It goes back to Warcraft 1. It's kinda a fantasy tradition now.

If anything Blizzard is still TOO subtle about it. The amount of casual players that have no idea that the playable Kul Tirans have Vrykul heritage and traditions is huge.