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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    By lore, excluding the player character, all those who were associated with the attack on teldrissel are now dead or no longer part of the horde. Malfurion and tyrandes forces have killed off the horses forces in darkshore. Saurfang died freeing the horde from sylvanas, and sylvanas and nathanos are no longer part of it.

    You want to hold the entire horde responsible for what happened? Okay, let's pull the internment camps card, or camp turajo card, shouldn't horde hold all the alliance accountable for those? Wait, they shouldn't you say? :O Wow who knew holding an entire faction responsible for the actions of a few would be considered questionable?!

    I mean we still hold Germany and Japan responsible for world war 2 right?
    if Delaryn and Sira are still around, then Belmont, Eyegouge, and Sunbeam are definitely alive too
    The Alliance gets the Horde's most popular race. The Horde should get the Alliance's most popular race in return. Alteraci Humans for the Horde!

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    I will never do the amends with the void mutants that almost destroy the sunwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwielder View Post
    Azeroth is our territory and we should not share it with them.
    Every land is troll land
    This world don't give us nothing. It be our lot to suffer... and our duty to fight back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    I will never say sorry as I am a male Orc and don't make mistakes.
    We do not need to say sorry brother, but we do need to make amends.

    We can do so by capturing a Bronze Dragon, forcing it to open another timegate, and rescuing Warchief Garrosh from the coalition before they can assassinate him!

    FOR THE HORDE!
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    "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never....BURN IT"
    Quote Originally Posted by Kathandira View Post
    You are kinda joe Roganing this topic. Hardly have any actual knowledge other than what people have told you, and jumping into a discussion with people who have direct experience with it. Don't be Joe Rogan.

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    This thread needs to settle down a bit. Talk about the topic at hand constructively and civilly, this doesn't need to devolve into a partisan flame-fest or rolling argument. Keep your replies topical and impersonal.
    "We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see." ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhlor View Post
    I will never do the amends with the void mutants that almost destroy the sunwell
    Melodramatic, much? She didn't "almost destroy the Sunwell", she just allowed 10 weak fodder ethereals to use the Sunwell as staging ground for their miserable invasion that lasted a total of 10 seconds.

    Also, why are void mutants a problem? I mean, you like blood elves, who are clearly fel mutants, so you don't have mutants in general, only void mutants. I wonder why.
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  7. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwielder View Post
    Forsaken hate the living and life itself. Killing some who are in to know-how on the making of WMD is not enough. That entire race has rotten morality and ethics, incompatible with the living.

    Alliance owns this planet. You just happen to live here. How many times are we going to have to remind that to the Horde?
    rotfl, actually at best trolls own the planet. most of alliance races are void abominations exactly like forsaken are undead ones.
    but ehy, alliance can ignore everything

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    This thread needs to settle down a bit. Talk about the topic at hand constructively and civilly, this doesn't need to devolve into a partisan flame-fest or rolling argument. Keep your replies topical and impersonal.
    That wont happen and you know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by omeomorfismo View Post
    rotfl, actually at best trolls own the planet. most of alliance races are void abominations exactly like forsaken are undead ones.
    but ehy, alliance can ignore everything
    Trolls... where are they? Living in the middle of swamps and forests, doing fuck all? Just like ants, they have the numbers but they do anything except for causing mischief which is put down swiftly.

    Alliance owns this planet. You just happen to live here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    What the horde can do? Are you joking? mischaracterization, being completely stripped from his own theme, having almost all important characters died isn't enough for you?
    I wonder if Horde players will ever stop coming up with excuses for their faction's awful behavior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verdugo View Post
    That wont happen and you know it.
    If it doesn't then it won't stay open much longer.
    "We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see." ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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    How is the Alliance a tyrannical regime again
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    Does the CIA pay you for your bullshit or are you just bootlicking in your free time?
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    I'm quite tired of people who dislike something/disagree with something while attacking/insulting anyone that disagrees. Its as if at some point, people forgot how opinions work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deenman View Post
    if this was realistic or good writing,the aliance would disband the horde kill all fosaken and orcs,and isolate the rest,rome used to do that to really bad agresors,anihilate them all when it was clear they couldnt play nice
    Realistic yes, good writing? hell no

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aphrel View Post
    One day, ogrimmar shall burn with righteous fire.

    When the last rotting corpse stops moving, when the last greenskin takes its final breath, we shall have peace, and not a moment before.
    i feel like this is quoting something lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardenaso View Post
    Danath Trollbane, Akama, Arechron, Vereesa Windrunner

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    Hitler, Mao, Churchill, Truman, Tojo, Mussolini, Stalin, Pol Pot are dead; therefore their military can now go scot-free

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    those are... demons. Also, Velen was the one who vouched for the Broken back to their fold

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    I'd like to remind everyone here before the Dark Portal was opened the human nations were almost to have a war; much easier with Daval and Katrana going around. So no, the Horde needs to exist to keep the Alliance together

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    Have "a little patience" now, shall we?
    Danath trollbane yeah but honestly arathi is in ruins so he bears no real power, Akama isn't part of the alliance so his Oppinion doesn't matter and he is spirit is most likely broken again by DH's and Vereesa didn't really bear any hostility to horde even in her inner though in war crimes so not really.

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    For starters they could begin by not having their personalities being determined by thirst for Alliance blood. We can go from there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bennett View Post
    Pretty sure making mistakes is a prerequisite to being an Orc. You can trace nearly every problem in Warcraft back to an Orc
    LOL this is almost parody levels accurate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raisei View Post
    Both Velen and Tyralyon spend literal millenia on trying to exterminate the Burning Legion... Velen has shown himself to be quite unforgiving when dealing with his former people and Turalyon / Alleria are very very much Anti-Horde to begin with.



    From the Darkshore Trailer we can assume that Malfurion has very little problem murdering Hordes after what they did to his people. He had that one Orc dragged underground and presumably crushed or suffocated by roots, the Belf Paladin he killed so quick, she did not even see it coming. Jaina does not want to be that person, but if the Horde forces her hand again, it is very likely that she will wipe out Orgrimmar for real this time.
    Velen has already said he forgave the orcs what they did in draenor in war crimes and Tyralyon just wanted lock the ors in interment camps after the second war he easily hated them more then than he does now.

    Malfurion did the same thing bfa NE novels and was dping the same to saurfang then who is brother to broxigar whom Malfurion honors like shit and uncle to thura who saved his life so what he did in darkshore trailer doesn't prove anything. She forced hordes hands first on botgh of the occasion so she is hypocrite and even though she is strong we have seen in wn universe mass defeat a powerful individual and she is nowhere near even on velens level and even velen powers couldn't stop the first horde.

  19. #119
    Quote Originally Posted by Bennett View Post
    Wrong. Lordaeron is basically the top part of the Eastern Kingdoms - the actual city in Tirisfal Glades is called Lordaeron City/Capital City

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    And there are probably people who would be loyal to Garrosh if he were still alive - doesn't matter, the power is gone
    Then you should say the Kingdom of Lordaeron. And the civilian were still evacuated while the NE could not evacuate much.

  20. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by Raisei View Post
    Exactly the kind of thinking that makes me doubt that any change will happen in the Horde. It boils down to: "Orc stronk, Orc do what Orc want". There is not even any realization that the Horde has commited an atrocious warcrime (not even in the educated modern minds of the Horde playerbase), they WANT to be evil, they WANT to be on one level with the Legion or the Scourge, so the only real change that would last is destroying the Horde just as we destroyed the Legion and the Scourge.
    Anything less will just lead to the next warcrime. Maybe it is the Exodar burning this time because Sylvanas 2.0 feels that the Light is blinding her.
    Alliance made nearly every actions legitimate politically atrocities in war can be justified and modern horde had justification on every one of their actions like fourth war alliance tried to assasinate sylvanas for no reason in stormheim and killed hordes civilians in silithus as miners are civilians recardless of their race and what alliance players did there happened before explorer's league happened as we saw no trace of the league there in bfa prepatch as trying to kill a political leader of nation and a faction outside of war is a war crime which often leads to war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bennett View Post
    Pretty sure making mistakes is a prerequisite to being an Orc. You can trace nearly every problem in Warcraft back to an Orc
    Well not really you can trace them to draenai and velen arriving on draenor as they new legion was searching for them.

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