15 yr old girl beaten unconscious by gang of boys

[Rustedsaint]

Bunch of cowardly scumbags, hope they make a mistake and attempt to attack one of those armed stand your ground types.

[Rogue Karl]

There is no effective tool for self defense when you are jumped by a dozen+ people.

What do you suggest be done they have the public's support...

If a cop tackled even one of them to the ground someone with a camera phone and the world would lobby together to destroy that officers life.

It's why I roll my eyes at people rallying behind criminals to push social issues. You get what you deserve.

[Egomaniac]

What do you suggest be done they have the public's support...

If a cop tackled even one of them to the ground someone with a camera phone and the world would lobby together to destroy that officers life.

It's why I roll my eyes at people rallying behind criminals to push social issues. You get what you deserve.

Who, exactly, has the public's support? Certainly not this gang of boys.

If a cop were around to have tackled one of these boys...there isn't a person here that would condemn that action.

No one is rallying behind the criminals here.

Your whole statement is a delusional rant.

Your race baiting in the last thread is part of the reason it got locked. Don't repeat the same thing here.

[Sliske]

Pack mentality and, if it was an actual gang, chances are she was probably involved in it. Here in Ireland, a gang shoved a woman inside a duffelbag and beat her with hammers, all because she stole like £100 off the gang. The woman was one of the gang members' girlfriend, too.

Gang mentality is essentially its us vs the world. They're no better than people like ISIS. They will kill you in cold blood and think nothing of it - thats why murdering random people is often an initiation right. Pack mentality on top of this is even more lethal. You're already 'the other' by not being in the gang and then it becomes a sport of not wanting to appear weak or against the gang, so gang killings in particular become extremely brutal.

Another one in Ireland - think he was 16 years old or so, he threw a petrol bomb, might've been a pipe bomb, at a rival gang members' granny's house. No one was hurt. The rival gang then got him, chopped off both his arms, both his legs and his head. IIRC they then placed the various body parts at specific areas, like outside the parents' house and burned out his car etc.

This woman, i would be EXTREMELY surprised to hear that this woman was just a random person. More likely, she was in with this gang then tried to leave, or cheated with a rival gang member, or whatever.

Doesn't excuse it, of course, just trying to say why it might've happened.

As for why people didn't step in, listen, i watched 300 too. Doesn't mean i'm gonna walk up to 15 young men, already hyped up and visibly displaying that they're willing to gang up on you, get you on the ground and stomp you almost to death, and say "hey there fellers, wanna not stomp someone half to death?"

[Deus Mortis]

And what if she assaulted them first ?

We don’t know the whole story

If she did then you pin her down with your giant group and call the cops, it is not fucking hard. You don't go chasing after someone and goomba stomp their head.

[Poe]

If she did then you pin her down with your giant group and call the cops, it is not fucking hard. You don't go chasing after someone and goomba stomp their head.

I'm not justifying the assault. I just think it's unlikely a group of youth males would chase down a girl and beat her down in broad daylight on a busy street unprovoked.

[valax]

yep these things just happen don't they themius. they are perfectly aok by you.

What do we expect by someone who defended pedos and in every thread about a kid getting hurt is always ready to victim blame, this "man" is not right.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

What do you suggest be done they have the public's support...

If a cop tackled even one of them to the ground someone with a camera phone and the world would lobby together to destroy that officers life.

It's why I roll my eyes at people rallying behind criminals to push social issues. You get what you deserve.

This is incredibly delusional no gang of kids assaulting people has the public’s support and no one would stand against the cops trying to stop them.

[Themius]

What do we expect by someone who defended pedos and in every thread about a kid getting hurt is always ready to victim blame, this "man" is not right.

Do you only speak is hyperbole?

Assaults happen. Mass assaults also happen quite frequently. People also not helping isn’t new. Murders and rapes have happened with people nearby but mob mentality takes effect so yes. These things happen.

Oh please go out and post those quotes, surely you must have them if this is true yes and you're not a liar.

A random person getting beaten by a mob is nothing unique it happens all over the world quite frequently. Especially when those people are teens. Teenagers are the most criminally prone, and violent age group. So nothing about this is exactly "shocking".

I recall an elite private school having like 10 teens beating down another boy, so again these things do happen. This isn't unique, it is unfortunate, but not unique.

It should be news only to capture them not because it is something groundbreaking.

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This is incredibly delusional no gang of kids assaulting people has the public’s support and no one would stand against the cops trying to stop them.

I will say though cops ganging up tends to have the support of some people.

Hell a cop can say "I'm going to shoot this mother fucker" and then sick dogs, pepper spray, tase, and shoot a guy and people will still defend them.

[valax]

Oh please go out and post those quotes, surely you must have them if this is true yes and you're not a liar.

A random person getting beaten by a mob is nothing unique it happens all over the world quite frequently. Especially when those people are teens. Teenagers are the most criminally prone, and violent age group. So nothing about this is exactly "shocking".

I recall an elite private school having like 10 teens beating down another boy, so again these things do happen. This isn't unique, it is unfortunate, but not unique.

It should be news only to capture them not because it is something groundbreaking.

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I will say though cops ganging up tends to have the support of some people.

Hell a cop can say "I'm going to shoot this mother fucker" and then sick dogs, pepper spray, tase, and shoot a guy and people will still defend them.

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...2#post52127772
https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...9#post50839429

[Rogue Karl]

Who, exactly, has the public's support? Certainly not this gang of boys.

If a cop were around to have tackled one of these boys...there isn't a person here that would condemn that action.

No one is rallying behind the criminals here.

Your whole statement is a delusional rant.

Your race baiting in the last thread is part of the reason it got locked. Don't repeat the same thing here.

All that will be shown is the arrest. Then people will stand on a soap box about " How dare they hurt a child!!!"

We watched this play out over and over again.

[Themius]

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...2#post52127772
https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...9#post50839429

So you are a liar then?

I didn't blame the victims in that initial and then noted they seem more concerned about people running people off the road then well.. murders and terror attacks.

I mean if you read my quote you see the argument I was making and why I found your argument silly.

The idea that supply and demand is a thing that exist in digital images and videos is rather stupid.
"If it is legal then they'll have to make more porn because of demand!"

Like what no that's not how porn fucking works lol.

Also being that this practice actually happened and several countries noted a DECREASE also says you'd be wrong.

Porn isn't like buying a car, you can't "use it up" and then need to buy a new one. There isn't some self destruct time limit on porn.

Note I was also citing studies directly relating to less crimes against children and also noted another study showing less rape against women.

But data numbers facts and studies do not matter to you.

Like I've said plenty of times, a lot of people here are more concerned with hurting people for vengeance to such a degree the very people they want to protect are adversely affected. I believe I even went into detail about my personal experience and about why I felt maybe if they had access to it then I wouldn't have been assaulted, since that's what the studies show. But fuck listening to the actual victims with actual experiences it's all about how you "believe" things should be damn data damn studies. Damn studies taken both before and after.

I even followed up with:

To a pedophile it probably is like the same thing. At least that's what the data shows. I mean you can refute or ignore it if you'd like. That's up to you. This really isn't a "to me" thing it just a "just is" thing.

Which the entire point was here, it is not about how I feel but just what the studies we have from several countries showed.

You keep trying to attach things to me which makes no fucking sense.

Me saying that videos of people being murdered shouldn't be illegal to the point where people are thrown in jail for watching such a video. Doesn't now mean I go around killing people... it takes a tremendous amount of mental gymnastics to come to that fucking conclusion.

I'm also not a thief because I defended two teens who were MURDERED by a man's house they broke into and the man is now serving life by the way.

I wasn't an 11 year old boy killing children, because I didn't believe in charging an 11 year old as an adult for killing another child.

It is very easy to defend things and support things without being "bad" yourself, but for some reason people like you want to make everything extraordinarily personal to damage another's perceived moral standing and tear them down because you have no fucking argument backed by data. It is a pathetic path of argument.

[Rogue Karl]

This is incredibly delusional no gang of kids assaulting people has the public’s support and no one would stand against the cops trying to stop them.

Would you think a man assaulting a store owner, stealing smokes then trying to take a cop's gun off him would have the public's support?

People are rather easy to manipulate and once tricked they will fight to and nail to defend their fantasy.

[Themius]

Would you think a man assaulting a store owner, stealing smokes then trying to take a cop's gun off him would have the public's support?

People are rather easy to manipulate and once tricked they will fight to and nail to defend their fantasy.

In fantasy world they were trying to take the gun..

[Rogue Karl]

In fantasy world they were trying to take the gun..

So my point is made ironically... people act like they would support officers doing their job but the second violence must be employed they turn on them with a drop of the hat.

[Themius]

So my point is made ironically... people act like they would support officers doing their job but the second violence must be employed they turn on them with a drop of the hat.

The case you're using that didn't happen... at least the case you're alluding to here. Unless this is some hypothetical using the base of another case but then adding one more extra step.

Like I can do that too.

"Like ganged up on the boys but the girl pulled a gun and was connected with the local Mafia" It's foolish... do find proper arguments based in idk... reality?

[tikcol]

Disgusting how satisfied they look while stomping on the girl. I wonder if they'll keep their satisfied look while someone satisfies themselves on them in prison

[Themius]

Disgusting how satisfied they look while stomping on the girl. I wonder if they'll keep their satisfied look while someone satisfies themselves on them in prison

Most mob attacks don’t involve people who look terribly unsatisfied so that’s an interesting observation.

Hoping for prison revenge isn’t justice by the way.

[mvaliz]

Yeah I'd like to see you to remain calm when 20 shits are threatening you at your home... more so when police do FUCK ALL.

He didn't have to remain calm. One of the things he could've done is gone into his car and, you know, drive AWAY from the attackers? Or go into the nearest building and call police?

Being angry =/= justification for revenge. You lied to us saying it was in self-defense... at that point, it was clearly no longer self defense - and you damn well know that.

[zhero]

And what if she assaulted them first ?

We don’t know the whole story

i highly doubt if she attacked them first, she would get to strike all 15 or 16 guys before being struck back by a gang that assaulted her like that.