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    Quote Originally Posted by cuafpr View Post
    https://popculture.com/trending/2020...s-coronavirus/

    looks like they are focusing on re-stocking the essentials first which is good, but people are panicking more over it already...
    Thank god they actually consider pet supplies essential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    How about the fact you have no info to back this claim up atm.
    You mean like the fact that someone got it twice already?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumred View Post
    If you are in an area where they are still open. I suspect by this time next week 99% of areas in the US bars will be forced to be closed for the time being.
    It's a shaun of the dead reference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    You mean like the fact that someone got it twice already?
    Far as I heard, they either just tested positive for it again because it was in their system but didn't actually HAVE it, or it was a different strain which is a rare case.

    Current scientific approach to it is that it is very unlikely you can be reinfected but not 100% out of the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onikaroshi View Post
    It's a shaun of the dead reference.

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    Far as I heard, they either just tested positive for it again because it was in their system but didn't actually HAVE it, or it was a different strain which is a rare case.

    Current scientific approach to it is that it is very unlikely you can be reinfected but not 100% out of the question.
    Ah been ages since I have seen the movie. I guess I should rewatch it since I wont be able to go do anything for a month or two....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    You mean like the fact that someone got it twice already?
    Did he actually get it twice? or was it faulty testing equipment? I'm all for a source, but if it's from china don't bother. That was already addressed as most likely improper testing/faulty equipment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    Did he actually get it twice? or was it faulty testing equipment? I'm all for a source, but if it's from china don't bother. That was already addressed as most likely improper testing/faulty equipment.
    read the article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    snip
    our numbers are not real we aren't testing enough even nurses have problems getting tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    You also have to take into account that officials believe the virus was spreading Italy, especially the Lombardy region, potentially weeks before they identified the first case on Feb 21. So very likely that Italy is not on day 26 of the outbreak but probably something like day 40-45.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    read the article.

    https://www.wired.com/story/did-a-wo...are-skeptical/
    But several infectious disease specialists say there’s not enough data to support that conclusion. Another possibility is that the virus subsided and flared up again. (Some viruses tend to do that.) Or the test was simply wrong.
    So still. No real evidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    our numbers are not real we aren't testing enough even nurses have problems getting tests.
    Nobody's numbers are not real, testing is problematic everywhere. Even MoH says it so - take what is reported and multiply it by 3 for real numbers.

    For example latest info from Ministry of Health here - 1/4 of those who tested positive showed no visible symptoms. So far those who are tested in just about anywhere are mostly those who actually have symptoms, so you can imagine just how many go under the radar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wunksta View Post
    They're going to have to start doing mandatory curfews because of shit like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    So still. No real evidence.
    /facepalm

    It says right there several times we don't know enough about the virus, how many ways can that be restated? we know someone got it twice we have to figure out what happened. When people make assumptions and jump the gun instead of taking caution it's how you end up in disastrous situations later down the line. You can't assume anything about viruses we know someone got it twice we don't have enough data yet so best to be cautious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidax View Post
    Nobody's numbers are not real, testing is problematic everywhere. Even MoH says it so - take what is reported and multiply it by 3 for real numbers.

    For example latest info from Ministry of Health here - 1/4 of those who tested positive showed no visible symptoms. So far those who are tested in just about anywhere are mostly those who actually have symptoms, so you can imagine just how many go under the radar.
    In the case of the US even people who have been exposed or showing possible symptoms are not being tested that's not even going into the fact that we are still having issues with the testing itself. We have samples expiring and have to test people more than once our system is basically breaking down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    They're going to have to start doing mandatory curfews because of shit like this.
    They will, happened here already.

    I don't think it's enforced yet, though, but it will be soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    They're going to have to start doing mandatory curfews because of shit like this.
    I mean, florida could have shut down the beaches, they just don't seem to care lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidax View Post
    They will, happened here already.

    I don't think it's enforced yet, though, but it will be soon.
    Sucks for those of us who can only do our shopping it what would be after curfew hours though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    /facepalm

    It says right there several times we don't know enough about the virus, how many ways can that be restated? we know someone got it twice we have to figure out what happened. When people make assumptions and jump the gun instead of taking caution it's how you end up in disastrous situations later down the line. You can't assume anything about viruses we know someone got it twice we don't have enough data yet so best to be cautious.

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    In the case of the US even people who have been exposed or showing possible symptoms are not being tested that's not even going into the fact that we are still having issues with the testing itself. We have samples expiring and have to test people more than once our system is basically breaking down.
    The irony....

    My claim word for word
    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...1#post52184874
    We don't know if it's possible to get it twice. What we DO know is when it comes to viruses, is once your body builds up immunity to a virus it's very unlikely to get reinfected. Even more so right after being infected in the first place.
    your claim

    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    Not such a great idea since it's possible to get it twice, we just don't know enough about this virus.

    But I'm the one making assumptions and Jumping the gun on 1 unconfirmed case of someone getting reinfected.... Ok bub....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    In the case of the US even people who have been exposed or showing possible symptoms are not being tested that's not even going into the fact that we are still having issues with the testing itself. We have samples expiring and have to test people more than once our system is basically breaking down.
    You and most of the world. US is not special really in this, really. We have somewhat similar situation with tests - they are slow and so far only like 800 tests per day are done bottom line and we're population of 9 million. MoH hopes to increase that number to 2000 this week and they setup testing drive through labs across the country atm.

    The only good news is that because local government was somewhat on the ball and started bunkering-up everything earlier than most, we don't have absolute catastrophe going on and still no deaths, but this will come.

    Right now you can't get tested just because you want it, hope this will change next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santti View Post
    Just heard over the radio that Americans have been hoarding guns and ammunition over the Covid-19 pandemia. Think it was ammo.com or something that has something like 70% increased sales on ammunition? Guess you could try and shoot the virus out of the air or something.
    You know whats better in a crisis then a can of beans?
    A gun that lets you take many cans of beans off of other people.

    Yes its stupid but that is the thought behind it. They have seen Mad Max, if society breaks down they want to be the ones with guns.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

  18. #3398
    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    The irony....

    My claim word for word
    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...1#post52184874


    your claim




    But I'm the one making assumptions and Jumping the gun on 1 unconfirmed case of someone getting reinfected.... Ok bub....
    Words do you not read them seriously /doublefacepalm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    You know whats better in a crisis then a can of beans?
    A gun that lets you take many cans of beans off of other people.
    Ah, America, the land of free...

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    After talking to a local doctor about the Coronavirus, I have a question I hope someone can answer:
    There were many other disease outbreaks in recent decades: Ebola, bird flu, pig flu off the top of my head. According to an infographic someone posted some pages ago, pig flu had 30x more deaths than Coronavirus. But there was no panic then, no worldwide shutdowns. In my country at the time of pig flu, corrupt politicians used the epidemic to steal some millions from the budget under pretense of vaccine, that was it. No quarantines, some people wore masks, business as usual besides that.

    Why is there such fuss and disruption over a disease outbreak less deadly than previous ones?
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    It's not 2004. People have lives, jobs, families etc

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