1. #3441
    Quote Originally Posted by Yunru View Post
    Oh the fun:


    Is it realy worth keeping store open for 3 more days. Just to sell those 2 games.
    Well, see... once gamestop closes they may never reopen :P

  2. #3442
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Funny that you mention that, I'm near certain that such a number is likely greater for the simple facts are too few tests done, and that there are people that probably had it, recovered, and never knew it. (so no tests needed on those individuals)
    Yes, there are probably people that have recovered without knowing they had it. The issue being is how many people they spread it to without knowing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onikaroshi View Post
    Well, see... once gamestop closes they may never reopen :P
    And nothing of value will have been lost.

  3. #3443
    Quote Originally Posted by Egomaniac View Post
    And nothing of value will have been lost.
    Well, all the people who relied on them for income would probably say different.

  4. #3444
    Quote Originally Posted by PrimiOne View Post
    Less deadly? No,it's potentially way more deadly.

    Does this scenario ( the one the WHO is warning) solves your doubts about why the world is in panic?
    See, this is what people are not comprehending. They just go "lawl, less deaths then the flu". Its like they don't realize that its Still spreading and, unlike the flu, we have no way to stop it. Not to mention the Coronavirus is already at 4% mortality rate, so it actually beats the flu now.

    They just don't understand that as the cases rise, the ability to treat it drops drastically. Its not even a case of "well, give them less medicine". Its a case of, there wont be Any to give them to begin with.
    Quote Originally Posted by scorpious1109 View Post
    Why the hell would you wait till after you did this to confirm the mortality rate of such action?

  5. #3445
    Quote Originally Posted by Egomaniac View Post
    Yes, there are probably people that have recovered without knowing they had it. The issue being is how many people they spread it to without knowing.
    That can't be relevant now can it?

  6. #3446
    Quote Originally Posted by Onikaroshi View Post
    Well, all the people who relied on them for income would probably say different.
    Gamestop will just be replaced by something else. Maybe even a place that doesn't force it's employees to work during a pandemic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    That can't be relevant now can it?
    A unknown number of people infected and wandering around? Yeah, that's not relevant at all...

  7. #3447
    Quote Originally Posted by Egomaniac View Post
    A unknown number of people infected and wandering around? Yeah, that's not relevant at all...
    How would you make an unknown relevant when you know nothing about them...who they are, where they are...?
    Use your head.
    Or are you, in some roundabout way suggesting martial law?

  8. #3448
    Quote Originally Posted by Khaza-R View Post
    Just going off the research at John Hopkins

    “Preliminary evidence suggests two strains of SARS-2-CoV circulating: one associated with milder illness (~30%), the other with severe illness (70%)”
    They don't provide references, but it seems to be based on a Chinese study - and that statement misrepresents the result of that study; https://academic.oup.com/nsr/advance...waa036/5775463

    After looking at 103 samples they could classify them in two groups, L (70%) and S (30%), where S is the older, but L was first spreading more in Wuhan and now less. They think that might be because L was more "aggressive" and reproducing more, and thus was detected more and therefore spread less(!) since it was noticed, while S flew under the rader; but further studies are needed - and WHO hasn't confirmed it.

    And anyway it doesn't seem that the difference impacts the virus-surface, so it seems unlikely to influence vaccine and possible re-infections.

    The L-variant has then split into 3 or more large sub-variants: https://nextstrain.org/ncov?c=gt-ORF8_84
    It could also just be chance and that one person with the L-variant travelled to Italy and then that spread to most of Europe (whereas the US got both variants).
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    Again, Italy's numbers for the day:

    Cases +3526, up to 31506 (+13%)
    Deaths +345, up to 2503 (+16%)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Onikaroshi View Post
    Well, see... once gamestop closes they may never reopen :P
    sucks to be them; afaik Steam is raking in money right now, digital purchases 4 teh win

  11. #3451
    Spain and Germany are on their way to pass Iran soon. France has slowed down compared to Germany.

  12. #3452
    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    Again, Italy's numbers for the day:

    Cases +3526, up to 31506 (+13%)
    Deaths +345, up to 2503 (+16%)
    This is leaked footage from an ICU in Milan that I'm surprised hasn't gone viral yet. (Just a warning, this is quite disturbing to watch).

    Footage like this needs to be played on major news channels around the world so people start taking this seriously.

  13. #3453
    Ontario, Canada has just declared a state of emergency, closing most public spaces until March 30th. As much as this virus is deadly, i really feel like the real effects we'll feel from this are going to be in the god awful economic impacts. I suspect most businesses really aren't prepared to be closed 2 weeks, let alone months or a year.

  14. #3454
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    How would you make an unknown relevant when you know nothing about them...who they are, where they are...?
    Use your head.
    Or are you, in some roundabout way suggesting martial law?
    People who have the virus, regardless of whether they know it or not, can spread it. Why would that not be relevant?

    The fact that you don't know who they are, where they are or anything else about them is exactly what MAKES it relevant. That's why the social distancing and quarantining precautions and warnings are being put in place.

  15. #3455
    Quote Originally Posted by Katchii View Post
    People who have the virus, regardless of whether they know it or not, can spread it. Why would that not be relevant?
    Because if no one knows it, then nothing can be done about it.

  16. #3456
    Quote Originally Posted by ranzino View Post
    sucks to be them; afaik Steam is raking in money right now, digital purchases 4 teh win
    Steam should do a Quarantine sale lol.

  17. #3457
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Because if no one knows it, then nothing can be done about it.
    Obviously there are things that can be done about it, look at what is happening all over the world. Whether lockdowns are effective seems to vary.

    Ironically, Italy is being punished for their benevolent practice of letting the elderly live at home and not in retirement homes like in the US or Western Europe which is a cruel and miserable end to a person's life. That said, in cases like this the mortality rate will probably be lower in the latter countries where the elderly are isolated in their own communities and not in the same household with asymptomatic young people who unknowingly bring it home. On the flip side though, Japan also has a large elderly population who live at home and their death rate is not as high as Italy's.

  18. #3458
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Obviously there are things that can be done about it, look at what is happening all over the world. Whether lockdowns are effective seems to vary.
    What things?
    Martial law? Go ahead and try that...because you ain't American if you "think" that's an option.

  19. #3459
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Obviously there are things that can be done about it, look at what is happening all over the world. Whether lockdowns are effective seems to vary.

    Ironically, Italy is being punished for their benevolent practice of letting the elderly live at home and not in retirement homes like in the US or Western Europe which is a cruel and miserable end to a person's life. That said, in cases like this the mortality rate will probably be lower in the latter countries where the elderly are isolated in their own communities and not in the same household with asymptomatic young people who unknowingly bring it home. On the flip side though, Japan also has a large elderly population who live at home and their death rate is not as high as Italy's.
    I mean, most of the US's elderly aren't living in nursing homes, most live at home.

  20. #3460
    Quote Originally Posted by Onikaroshi View Post
    I mean, most of the US's elderly aren't living in nursing homes, most live at home.
    Living in your own home as an elderly person is different from living in a multi-generational household with your children and grandchildren which (from what I understand) is the norm in Italy.
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