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    How close to BiS is your character with Visions of Nzoth? (for your skill cap)

    For the content you do and your skill cap! (otherwise the thread will be a big wall of "no")

    Different Skill Caps example

    -Normal
    -Heroic
    -Partial Mythic
    -Full Clear Mythic
    -Mythic+ dungeons slot machine

    Show us how close to perfection your character is. Maybe you just have one gear slot without the optimal secondary stats?
    How is your corruption setup?

    Feel free to flex...or show your frustration

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    With so much RNG right now in WoW it's impossible to have BIS gear. No matter different skill caps.

    But how close am I to the BIS skill cap? No idea, my DPS can really vary with different essences/enchants. I just think that there's no BIS gear in terms of skill cap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy View Post
    With so much RNG right now in WoW it's impossible to have BIS gear. No matter different skill caps.
    What exactly is making it impossible?

    The Mythic+ chest is kinda messing the whole thing but there is no Titanforging.

    So you can have BiS corruption and have many pieces of your best secondary stats.

    I just wanted to look at some NEAR perfect characters (T_T) possibly have a "winner" among us?

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    Well, I have rank 2 stars and twillight devastation...I feel good already. Gear dosent matter anyway unless you use it.,..I will farm a lot of islands in BFA eventually, so gear will speed that up, but else....meeh.

    Im buying a +15 every week until I get the mount, doing that or even just a +10 every week gears you up so fast anyway...

    OP if you wanna see good gear just go to worldofprogress and sort by Item level.
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    For the content I do? Done gearing a long time ago. I'll probably be able to 5 mask solo run horrific visions as soon as I get my cloak to level 15 and max my research at which point I'll have done the content I care about in 8.3.

    I've had plenty of coalescing visions to get me the final stretch, but every time I'm about to enter a vision I lose all motivation to play and go play something else. I don't find them all that interesting at this point, especially during Stormwind week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy View Post
    With so much RNG right now in WoW it's impossible to have BIS gear. No matter different skill caps.

    But how close am I to the BIS skill cap? No idea, my DPS can really vary with different essences/enchants. I just think that there's no BIS gear in terms of skill cap.
    this 100%
    Like i was pretty much maxed out for the level of raiding I do [no time for mythic raiding, but i do my weekly key and heroic raiding]. Until today i with exceptional luck was pretty much set [got my second unguent caress last week]. But this morning with reset opened chest and Lo and Behold, get 465 level pants with not only a socket but infinite stars, bumping dps up by a whooping 17% if i just equip it, or 13% if i cleanse some items to bring my corruption down. 13%!!!!!. i honestly just stared in disbelief for a bit (then i spammed my guildies to annoy them with my luck).

    long story short. corruption is definitely making this so that if you dont want to stop, then you cant stop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minikin View Post
    this 100%
    Like i was pretty much maxed out for the level of raiding I do [no time for mythic raiding, but i do my weekly key and heroic raiding]. Until today i with exceptional luck was pretty much set [got my second unguent caress last week]. But this morning with reset opened chest and Lo and Behold, get 465 level pants with not only a socket but infinite stars, bumping dps up by a whooping 17% if i just equip it, or 13% if i cleanse some items to bring my corruption down. 13%!!!!!. i honestly just stared in disbelief for a bit (then i spammed my guildies to annoy them with my luck).

    long story short. corruption is definitely making this so that if you dont want to stop, then you cant stop.
    This is the kind of luck i wanted to see

    I have a confession...i actually feel HUGE amounts of dopamine when i win at the Casino in WoW.
    It happened...a couple times already.

    But you feel miserable for the rest of the game...so i hate the mechanic.

    But man...on Benthic Casino i was so happy AND when i got the piece i wanted by buying RANDOM token of azerite pieces.
    OH man, how that felt good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadoowpunk View Post
    This is the kind of luck i wanted to see

    I have a confession...i actually feel HUGE amounts of dopamine when i win at the Casino in WoW.
    It happened...a couple times already.

    But you feel miserable for the rest of the game...so i hate the mechanic.

    But man...on Benthic Casino i was so happy AND when i got the piece i wanted by buying RANDOM token of azerite pieces.
    OH man, how that felt good.
    I'll admit it was after a dry spell of 2 shitty weekly chests. But it does feel awesome. I've been logging on just to see how hard I can hit things now. Its been insane. With two unguent carreses, stars, tentacles and destra trinket shit has just been exploding.
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    ...I have no idea if I'm close to the mighty BiS status or not. The 'Zoth is dead, made the 5-mask runs weeks ago, etc. My gear served it's purpose but it's not BiS at all. I did want a Twilight Devastation piece and I got that, so I felt kinda complete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minikin View Post
    this 100%
    Like i was pretty much maxed out for the level of raiding I do [no time for mythic raiding, but i do my weekly key and heroic raiding]. Until today i with exceptional luck was pretty much set [got my second unguent caress last week]. But this morning with reset opened chest and Lo and Behold, get 465 level pants with not only a socket but infinite stars, bumping dps up by a whooping 17% if i just equip it, or 13% if i cleanse some items to bring my corruption down. 13%!!!!!. i honestly just stared in disbelief for a bit (then i spammed my guildies to annoy them with my luck).

    long story short. corruption is definitely making this so that if you dont want to stop, then you cant stop.
    Keep in mind that the dps increase is a theoretical increase. Personally I take Infinite Stars dps increase with a shovel of salt.
    This might be because for me the theoretical dps of it from sims (aka the average from multiple simulations) is the top end I can get, with half of it being my average. That might just be because RNG hates me, as I see guildies with lower ranked Infinite Stars corruptions (both ilvl and actual rank) double my damage. Especially fun to see fellow raiders having 28 hits of it while getting 14 myself.

    Kinda frustration speaking, but the point is there is no BiS, there is only Best in RNG rolls for triggering the corruptions you have.
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    BiS basically doesnt exist anymore until they get rid of titanforging.

    And before all you neckbeards shout that they did, no. No they didn't. Corruption is exactly the same as TF. Or possibly even worse since it can basically autopilot you to 30k dps with the correct corruptions. And you need the gear that you want to drop WITH the corruptions you want. So yes, its exactly the same system. RNG on top of RNG. This time we get spell effects in stead big letters on the gear that say TITANFORGED.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sageless View Post
    Keep in mind that the dps increase is a theoretical increase. Personally I take Infinite Stars dps increase with a shovel of salt.
    This might be because for me the theoretical dps of it from sims (aka the average from multiple simulations) is the top end I can get, with half of it being my average. That might just be because RNG hates me, as I see guildies with lower ranked Infinite Stars corruptions (both ilvl and actual rank) double my damage. Especially fun to see fellow raiders having 28 hits of it while getting 14 myself.

    Kinda frustration speaking, but the point is there is no BiS, there is only Best in RNG rolls for triggering the corruptions you have.
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    oh i totally agree. I have seen ppl with it having crazy dmg as the stacks rack up but that doesnt mean that what raidbots says is what ill get. It does keep the gear roullete wheel going though.
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    BM hunter running a crit build with x2 tier 3 deadly momentum, 1 tier 3 racing pulse and the corruption bow.

    I am literally waiting for a severe piece to drop to call it BiS and its the only corruption piece I havnt seen drop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Playintrafic View Post
    BiS basically doesnt exist anymore until they get rid of titanforging.

    And before all you neckbeards shout that they did, no. No they didn't. Corruption is exactly the same as TF. Or possibly even worse since it can basically autopilot you to 30k dps with the correct corruptions. And you need the gear that you want to drop WITH the corruptions you want. So yes, its exactly the same system. RNG on top of RNG. This time we get spell effects in stead big letters on the gear that say TITANFORGED.
    Titanforge is gone silly.

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    Not even close and I couldn't care less these days with the RNGfest it's become

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    Skill Cap(?): Cleared Mythic about a month ago. Balance druid.
    In my "default" (no grand delusions) gearset I have 2 gushing wound pieces (470 socket ring and 475 offhand from m+ box), two 12% haste pieces (legs and wrists, both 465 with good stats, one from PvP and one from Visions) And one flex piece of a mastery proc, void ritual, crit proc, haste proc or mind flay tentacle depending on how high I want to take my corruption with the last piece. I have all the trinkets from the raid, a max ilvl weapon with socket and BiS azerite pieces. Apart from sockets, I consider myself to be rather close to a realistic BiS setup for the current amount of corruption resistance available.

    I also have a good setup for my primary offspec (guardian) with the lifesteal weapon from the raid, around 2.1k versatility and 1.9k mastery unbuffed with an additional tier 3 versatility proc on an already versatility-heavy ring. I am missing N'zoth's tank trinket though, which is absurdly overpowered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurker1 View Post
    Titanforge is gone silly.
    No its not. I have like 7 different titanforged pieces in my bag i am going have to sim because its actually just worse now that none of it is flat stat increases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by apustus View Post
    Skill Cap(?): Cleared Mythic about a month ago. Balance druid.
    In my "default" (no grand delusions) gearset I have 2 gushing wound pieces (470 socket ring and 475 offhand from m+ box), two 12% haste pieces (legs and wrists, both 465 with good stats, one from PvP and one from Visions) And one flex piece of a mastery proc, void ritual, crit proc, haste proc or mind flay tentacle depending on how high I want to take my corruption with the last piece. I have all the trinkets from the raid, a max ilvl weapon with socket and BiS azerite pieces. Apart from sockets, I consider myself to be rather close to a realistic BiS setup for the current amount of corruption resistance available.

    I also have a good setup for my primary offspec (guardian) with the lifesteal weapon from the raid, around 2.1k versatility and 1.9k mastery unbuffed with an additional tier 3 versatility proc on an already versatility-heavy ring. I am missing N'zoth's tank trinket though, which is absurdly overpowered.
    Im pretty sure a customization nerd would gasm reading your post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadoowpunk View Post
    For the content you do and your skill cap!
    I am DONE with my main. Not gonna bother with the others.
    I do LFR at most.
    I don't minmax secondary stats or corruption effects.
    My cloak is Rank 9 and it won't progress further for the same of progression, but will most likely take it to 12 by the end, just for the transmog.
    I am ilevel 450 and really don't give a poop about going higher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadoowpunk View Post
    This is the kind of luck i wanted to see

    I have a confession...i actually feel HUGE amounts of dopamine when i win at the Casino in WoW.
    It happened...a couple times already.

    But you feel miserable for the rest of the game...so i hate the mechanic.

    But man...on Benthic Casino i was so happy AND when i got the piece i wanted by buying RANDOM token of azerite pieces.
    OH man, how that felt good.
    Lmao imagine that eh? A couple times in 6 months they give you that quick dopamine hit and outside of that feel like shit the rest of the time. Welcome to the reason why I unsubbed

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