Mega-Thread: Coronavirus Pandemic

[Gaidax]

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We are currently at 5300 tests per day - about same population. Laboratories are having hard time keeping up now, that said they are still not working emergency times - as in many of them close at 16:00 every day and such.

Target is 10k tests per day next week.

[Puupi]

We are currently at 5300 tests per day - about same population. Laboratories are having hard time keeping up now, that said they are still not working emergency times - as in many of them close at 16:00 every day and such.

Target is 10k tests per day next week.

Finland is doing like 1,5k-2k tests a day which is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too few.

[PhaelixWW]

You have lots of ICU beds on average, however they are distributed so unevenly some places are truly fucked.

Erm... not to disagree, but...

Your article:

A report from the Society of Critical Care Medicine found that more than nine out of 10 intensive care beds nationally are in metropolitan areas with a population of more than 50,000.

...and yet, 85% of the US population lives in those urban areas. So 90% of beds for 85% of people is not "distributed so unevenly".

On top of that, the US has almost three times as many ICU beds per capita as Italy, almost four times as many as Spain, and over five times as many as the UK. Even a little unevenness doesn't overcome that difference, and that's assuming that said unevenness doesn't exist to a similar degree in those countries.

Unless you have more data on this?

[Easo]

Probably not many care, but couple of places where this shit can do a lot of damage are refugee camps, Syria chiefly, but let's add Yemen too. Think squalor in India, but worse.
Then places like Donbass also could get hit hard, I really do not think the macho guys there have a big priority on some virus...

[Orange Joe]

I am contributing, I'm actually working and keeping the economy from collapsing which would kill many more. What are you doing besides telling me how evil and wrong I am?

I know your banned and just a shitposter that makes a new account every few days... but This needs to be corrected.


People don't die from economic hard times. Even during the worst depression the US ever suffered mortality rates were lower than normal. Suicides were the only thing that did increase and that was more than offset by the decreased from other deaths.

[Poopymonster]

That's why I said "it will be though eventually". But right now? It's about average among the developed countries.

I just hope that governors in states themselves will have a lick of sense to put various considerable restrictions even in less threatened states, without waiting for the federal government to do something useful.

When you got Billy Beaux Jim Bob in LA keeping shit open and FL a few steps away doing the same, unless you lock the whole thing down shits gonna spread fast. And it is.

[Puupi]

Erm... not to disagree, but...

Your article:

...and yet, 85% of the US population lives in those urban areas. So 90% of beds for 85% of people is not "distributed so unevenly".

On top of that, the US has almost three times as many ICU beds per capita as Italy, almost four times as many as Spain, and over five times as many as the UK. Even a little unevenness doesn't overcome that difference, and that's assuming that said unevenness doesn't exist to a similar degree in those countries.

Unless you have more data on this?

It's not only "unevenness" between regions, but like...physical structures. You have private hospitals that have shitloads of ICU's and then you have other hospitals that have barely any. Considering the private health care aspect, not all of those ICU's are available to everyone.

Unless your government nationalizes hospitals and seizes their property or the hospitals go all kumbayah, this is a huge issue.

[beanman12345]

Trump thinks when people blame him, we're blaming the Army corps of engineer's. okay.

[Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang]

We are currently at 5300 tests per day - about same population. Laboratories are having hard time keeping up now, that said they are still not working emergency times - as in many of them close at 16:00 every day and such.

Target is 10k tests per day next week.

According to the Federal Councilor in charge, we are currently testing 6 to 8k per day. So yeah a significant ramp up. But I can't make much sense of a mention of 11.5k test per million inhabitant.

Expect a massive rise in the number of (cured) cases as with the antibody blood test they'll be clearing healthcare givers and the Civil Protection and Civilists (sort of Conscious Objectors), the latter being recalled to go staff the retirement homes who are steadily losing staff to the pressure.

[Poopymonster]

Oh boy you are in for a surprise.

The US has less ICU capacity than most western countries.

This is the US we're talking about. They'll put a credit card swiper on the side of the ventilator. Fail to put enough money in the machine, the Meter Maid comes by. Instead of a ticket for parking, you get unplugged.

[Skulltaker]

how would i do that if the person in question is in another county?

Dude, I don't know US legislation, but there must be a local hotline you can try to ask, or a website.

[PhaelixWW]

You have private hospitals that have shitloads of ICU's and then you have other hospitals that have barely any.

Uh, private hospitals account for about 15% of the staffed hospital bed total. That's not a huge percentage.

[Skulltaker]

I heard a similar argument in Italy, Best healthcare in Europe, tons of capacity,...

Italy does NOT have the best healthcare system in Europe, by no quantifiable measure, dude. Not even top 10. Their overall ranking within the EU is in the lower midfield, rank 20 out of 35. There have been multiple warnings in their national medical community that their ICU capacity is drastically to low and not equipped to handle any major crisis whatsoever.

[Deathknightish]

A few weeks ago the death rate was at 5% and decreasing. Now it's at 17%. Wtf happened?

[Puupi]

Uh, private hospitals account for about 15% of the staffed hospital bed total. That's not a huge percentage.

Well hopefully you have enough!

Did Trump just promise to deliver 100k ventilators in 100 days.

1000 ventilators produced every day.....? That's pushing out a ventilator every 1,5 minutes 24/7.

[lockybalboa]

100k new cases worldwide within a day. Holy shit

[Acidbaron]

A few weeks ago the death rate was at 5% and decreasing. Now it's at 17%. Wtf happened?

This virus does not kill instantly, it can take up to three weeks to fully kick in. There have been reports that people got sick, got better and got hit even worse by it shortly after.

[Puupi]

Is the retard really talking about nationalizing those companies?

Yes.

This has to be one of the most legendary 180 degree turns ever.

[PhaelixWW]

A few weeks ago the death rate was at 5% and decreasing. Now it's at 17%. Wtf happened?

CFR is 4.6% at the moment. The close case death rate is the one at 17%, but take that with a huge grain of salt, as many people are not officially listed as "recovered" yet are also not in any danger of dying.

[Acidbaron]

Italy does NOT have the best healthcare system in Europe, by no quantifiable measure, dude. Not even top 10. Their overall ranking within the EU is in the lower midfield, rank 20 out of 35. There have been multiple warnings in their national medical community that their ICU capacity is drastically to low and not equipped to handle any major crisis whatsoever.

Is any country capable of handling that situation? I am aware i was merely making a point that simply believing you are prepared and you have good health care, what the US does not as top care is just centralized on a few hospitals nation wide won't get you anywhere.

I did believe Italy had a good capacity of ICU, maybe not in hindsight for this situation however.