So...where are the final pair of Allied Races?

[Queen of Hamsters]

1. 8.3.5 never existed.
2. They have made changes to 8.3, nothing is abandoned. Stupid sentiment is stupid.
3. Vulpera and Mechagnome are the final Allied Races.

[Oneirophobia]

what makes you think there's gonna be any more allied races in BFA? :3 Expect to see them show up again during shadowlands.

I'm not sure races from the Shadowlands can leave, except the val'kyr. If that changes during Shadowlands I'd expect Kyrians to go Alliance and the Venthyr to go Horde.

[CaptainV]

I'm not sure races from the Shadowlands can leave, except the val'kyr. If that changes during Shadowlands I'd expect Kyrians to go Alliance and the Venthyr to go Horde.

Pretty much confirmed.

They said that while they wont be adding as many allied races in shadowlands they will be adding at least a few more.

My theory is that they will add Kyrians and Venthir, then the new allied races will all be neutral allied races to fill the middle ground.

[Fetus Rex]

Where? In Blizzard's pocket. Just shut up and pretend that fat humans and diaper gnomes are cool. Coomsume and don't ask questions.

[Thage]

well ok, what races would you have put in that both match up with the core races and the expansion?

Furbolgs for the Alliance (pandaren base model, slimmed down and given unique heads and skin tones a la the Nightborne so they're more primal/athletic) and Mok'nathal for the Horde (Kul'Tiran base model, bulked up and given unique heads and skin tones).

With the Horde's actions at Darkshore, the furbolg tribes therein have all the motivation necessary to take up arms and avenge the fallen, in addition to their long-standing friendly relations with the night elves (and during the Horde's occupation of Darkshore, the tribes' survivors could have been given shelter by the furbolg tribes of the Azuremyst Isles, allowing night elves, draenei, and furbolg to further strengthen their ties). Several of these tribes have, historically, been marginally affiliated with the Alliance if only out of proximity to the night elves and the helpful nature of passing adventurers, making them prime candidates to bring onboard to help shore up the losses of the Fourth War. It would also help fill a niche, as with the worgen reclaiming most of their more refined Gilnean sensibilities, and the night elves split between the vengeful following Tyrande and those who want to pick up the pieces and move on following Shandris, the Alliance is a bit lacking in a truly primal counterpart to the Horde's refined blood elves and Nightborne.

Conversely, the Mok'nathal under Rexxar are longtime Horde allies that could strike a serviceable middle ground between the desire for playable ogres (one of the iconic Horde races that always seem to teeter just on the cusp of Blizzard figuring out a good way to make them playable until a different candidate makes the cut instead), and issues with building geometry a race as large as ogres would cause if they were made playable. Mok'nathal are roughly tauren-sized, bigger than orcs but not so large that entering ye olde questing hub would prove problematic for those without a smaller shapeshift at the ready. Furthermore, they seem to mirror Thrall's push for a noble savage Horde back in Warcraft 3, with Rexxar in particular more than willing to go to war with the Alliance for blood and glory, but also able to recognize when glory in combat is giving way to reckless butchery.

[FossilFree]

I think they might add two more in the 9.0 prepatch. It would give us something to do in that month between prepatch and launch.

[Shadowsgrace]

they end up being either right or wrong?

Guess you never had "Shop class". It's a classic Shop teacher quote.

[vilememory]

Undead versions of all Horde Races since Sylvanas was a super villain and would have raised them while she was Warchief. And for the Alliance, High Elves. There, that is it. Spend the rest of the next two expansions bitching about how things aren't exactly as people imagined them to be.

[pinkz]

You can’t cancel the patch if it was never planned and they’re just probably going to add them later on in the game

blizzard can cancel patches in a expac, planned or not...WOD good example of patch content cut, more than any other expac

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I mean, not that I don't see a few problems with it...
Horde basically still have Blood Elves, Alliance getting High Elf option... so Horde would have to get something new, basically, at the same time this is done.
High Elves would still have to look distinct from not only Blood Elves but Void Elves as well.
I'd worry if Alliance would be resentful of getting Blood Elves 'again', but I guess that depends on how unique they make High Elves look, or even if they use the Blood Elf model for High Elves at all. The more unique High Elves are probably, the less of a headache all of that is.

If the High Elves are unique enough, I think they could let Blood and Void Elves stay as is without needing to give out any faction/race changes. Nevertheless, if they release High Elves alongside, say, a really fast leveling event while they also know they're coming in advance before they say, use a character boost for a new expac on something else, then it would probably make the situation better there as well. But in the case High Elves didn't look all that unique, I do think in that case they would probably need to open up options for Void Elves and Blood Elves to change to High Elves. This would all be influenced by how unique the High Elves can be made to look.

blood elves are high elves. blood elves were part of the HU faction...alliance in WC3 FT, blizz retconned them to give horde a pretty race....blizz's words

blood mage hero http://classic.battle.net/war3/human...loodmage.shtml
spell breakers http://classic.battle.net/war3/human...lbreaker.shtml
priest http://classic.battle.net/war3/human/units/priest.shtml
sorceress http://classic.battle.net/war3/human...orceress.shtml
dragonhawk rider http://classic.battle.net/war3/human...agonhawk.shtml

[Villager720]

blood elves are high elves. blood elves were part of the HU faction...alliance in WC3 FT, blizz retconned them to give horde a pretty race....blizz's words

They didn’t retcon anything.
The blood elves fled for their lives from the Alliance in their wc3 campaign.

When WoW launched, the blood elves were not aligned with the Alliance, which tracks with the situation following the events of Frozen Throne.

[FelPlague]

blizzard can cancel patches in a expac, planned or not...WOD good example of patch content cut, more than any other expac

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blood elves are high elves. blood elves were part of the HU faction...alliance in WC3 FT, blizz retconned them to give horde a pretty race....blizz's words

1. wow this has never been so wrong "blizzard can cancel a patch planned or not" the person was saying "you cant cancel a patch that was never going to exist" which is true, you are trying to say that they were saying "blizz cant cancel patches" which they can, and have.

2. that is not even close to true. Warcraft 3 specificly showed the elves seperating from the alliance, and were void from classic because of this, then coming in tbc as part of the horde as they were the only ones nearby and accepted them.
literally not a retcon, just a story.

[pinkz]

They didn’t retcon anything.
The blood elves fled for their lives from the Alliance in their wc3 campaign.

When WoW launched, the blood elves were not aligned with the Alliance, which tracks with the situation following the events of Frozen Throne.

for PVP and ladder play blood elves were part of human faction, campaign did not remove them. and yes it was a retcon


blood mage hero http://classic.battle.net/war3/human...loodmage.shtml
spell breakers http://classic.battle.net/war3/human...lbreaker.shtml
priest http://classic.battle.net/war3/human/units/priest.shtml
sorceress http://classic.battle.net/war3/human...orceress.shtml
dragonhawk rider http://classic.battle.net/war3/human...agonhawk.shtml

[Bryan Adam]

The final pair of alliance races mostly likely will come with the release of Shadowlands expansion.

[Villager720]

for PVP and ladder play blood elves were part of human faction, campaign did not remove them. and yes it was a retcon

blood mage hero http://classic.battle.net/war3/human...loodmage.shtml
spell breakers http://classic.battle.net/war3/human...lbreaker.shtml
priest http://classic.battle.net/war3/human/units/priest.shtml
sorceress http://classic.battle.net/war3/human...orceress.shtml
dragonhawk rider http://classic.battle.net/war3/human...agonhawk.shtml

I’m aware they’re part of the ladder, but during the story campaign they left/were driven out of the Alliance.

[Samuraijake]

who promised a final pair of allied races?

[Baleful]

This reminds me of draenei rogue hints since TBC and people always saying they will be playable in no time. Still waiting 13 years after TBC.

[Revamp Man]

blizzard can cancel patches in a expac, planned or not...WOD good example of patch content cut, more than any other expac

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blood elves are high elves. blood elves were part of the HU faction...alliance in WC3 FT, blizz retconned them to give horde a pretty race....blizz's words

blood mage hero http://classic.battle.net/war3/human...loodmage.shtml
spell breakers http://classic.battle.net/war3/human...lbreaker.shtml
priest http://classic.battle.net/war3/human/units/priest.shtml
sorceress http://classic.battle.net/war3/human...orceress.shtml
dragonhawk rider http://classic.battle.net/war3/human...agonhawk.shtml

....if you don’t have something planned you can’t cancel it....not even just in the sense of 8.3 but in every sense.

WoD has planned content that was cut

[Paperfox]

What's all this talk about a 'final' pair of races? Couldn't they just make the number bigger, have a bigger building? If you look at the portal 'room' in Org there are lots of spots for new ones. The downstairs still has empty one and there is the other - currently blocked - hallway.

[Ardenaso]

I mean, not that I don't see a few problems with it...
Horde basically still have Blood Elves, Alliance getting High Elf option... so Horde would have to get something new, basically, at the same time this is done.
High Elves would still have to look distinct from not only Blood Elves but Void Elves as well.

Alteraci Human

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for PVP and ladder play blood elves were part of human faction, campaign did not remove them. and yes it was a retcon


blood mage hero http://classic.battle.net/war3/human...loodmage.shtml
spell breakers http://classic.battle.net/war3/human...lbreaker.shtml
priest http://classic.battle.net/war3/human/units/priest.shtml
sorceress http://classic.battle.net/war3/human...orceress.shtml
dragonhawk rider http://classic.battle.net/war3/human...agonhawk.shtml

do you even know what retcon means

[BB8]

We got so many allied races already.
Maybe better in 10th expansion a new class/4th spec and new allied races.